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#119753 - 03/26/05 09:49 PM Re: Jesus on the Cross - Was he dead? Did he Survive?
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#119754 - 03/26/05 09:51 PM Re: Jesus on the Cross - Was he dead? Did he Survive?
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Registered: 03/24/05
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Kacey, what are you doing? Florian left and the discussion was closed. You are calling him names and being mean spirited. That doesn't sound much like an apology.

I know you're only 13 but you should take some responsability for the things you have said. I am not siding with anyone here but I went back and read what has been said between you and him and I think it was you who said that who ever doesn't make Jesus Christ their saviour will burn in hell. I think he took offence to that and went a little overboard. I also don't think he realized at first that you were only 13. I know I didn't until it was pointed out to me by another memeber.

I agree that he should have not spoken to you so harshly. I also agree that you might know a little less then someone older then you and that is simply because you haven't had the same amount of exprience. I think you are very smart for your age but you are only 13 never the less in some regards that shows.

I don't know if you care to take advice from me but may I suggest that you listen to the older people here a little more and express your drastic views on what is right and what is wrong, a little less. I know I am going to try to do that myself. I believe that God wants me to bring people his message but I will find more pleasant ways to do it and be less confruntational about it. You should do it too. You will be even smarter in the end and will be able to see the world in a lot more shades and colors.

Remember that some of the people her could be your parents as far as age is concerned. Some of them might find it hard to swallow when a 13 year old tells them that they need to do this or that or else...

Anyways, I don't think those bad things you just said about yourself but I would like to see you argue things in a more diplomatic fashion. Let's all do that!

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#119755 - 03/26/05 10:10 PM Re: Jesus on the Cross - Was he dead? Did he Survive?
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Registered: 11/15/04
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My mother is reading everything said in this topic and agrees with me. I know what you're going to say, "Well then, you and your mother must be messed up." I apologized for the things I said to harshly, but the truth hurts. This will be my last post in any other section but the keet section. I came here to chat about keets, and I should never have gotten involved in these other discussions.
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#119756 - 03/26/05 10:20 PM Re: Jesus on the Cross - Was he dead? Did he Survive?
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Registered: 03/24/05
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Well, good for you Kacey! Take care and don't try so hard to understand the world at 13. Enjoy your keets, your friends and your childhood. There will be plenty of time to figure it all out when you grow up.

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#119757 - 03/27/05 12:24 AM Re: Jesus on the Cross - Was he dead? Did he Survive?
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Registered: 03/02/05
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Well I trully thank you all (this only applies to people that were mean to Chelsea) I mean, its not everyday that you make a nice, knowledgable person leave not just ONE forum, but a WHOLE site! Honestly, I can understand trying to explain your beliefs to someone in hopes that they may be interested in following them, but plain out insulting them? Where the h311 are you gonna get with that?

People make me soo made sometimes...

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#119758 - 03/27/05 12:55 AM Re: Jesus on the Cross - Was he dead? Did he Survive?
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I apologize tht I let me emotions run to far in a few of the things I said. I tried to close the argument peaceful and respectfully, but Florian just kept running his mouth. From what I can tell, he seems like a hurtful, hateful person preocupied with "burning in hell". He seems to really enjoy saying it. Perhaps he is concerned about burning in hell? He seems to like putting others down to feel better about himself. But, that's just what I see. Whatever the case, he said some very hurtful and hateful things to me. I would take great offence even if I were an adult. After what's been said, and the personal attacks I have received, I am seriously considering leaving this forum.
Ok you apologised but did this have to be in such a derogative manner?

If you were serious in your apology why turn around and flame him in such a fashion? I think it's an act of attracting attention to yourself and I don't mean that disrespectfully. Be mature about it all and just apologise and leave it at that.

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#119759 - 03/27/05 01:22 AM Re: Jesus on the Cross - Was he dead? Did he Survive?
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Unfortunately I've seen this happen in several forums which is sad indeed.

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#119760 - 03/27/05 02:14 AM Re: Jesus on the Cross - Was he dead? Did he Survive?
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Originally posted by Nikkums:
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[b]I apologize tht I let me emotions run to far in a few of the things I said. I tried to close the argument peaceful and respectfully, but Florian just kept running his mouth. From what I can tell, he seems like a hurtful, hateful person preocupied with "burning in hell". He seems to really enjoy saying it. Perhaps he is concerned about burning in hell? He seems to like putting others down to feel better about himself. But, that's just what I see. Whatever the case, he said some very hurtful and hateful things to me. I would take great offence even if I were an adult. After what's been said, and the personal attacks I have received, I am seriously considering leaving this forum.
Ok you apologised but did this have to be in such a derogative manner?

If you were serious in your apology why turn around and flame him in such a fashion? I think it's an act of attracting attention to yourself and I don't mean that disrespectfully. Be mature about it all and just apologise and leave it at that. [/b]
Let me just say, this will be my only post here. I would not, in a million years appologize to him, after what he said to her. You need to all just back off and get a freaking life. You keep yelling at her about the apology she made, and telling each other to forget it, yet you all keep beating a dead horse around. The person that started the heat of this arguement has left, moved on, and I suggest you all do the same and just back off.

Yes, she did make a few harsh post, but she's 13, and you can't expect a 13 year old to be perfect. You know how when you were a kid, and you wanted people to listen to you, wanted your friends to listen to you, ect. Just because its not over weather bobby likes jenny, it's the same here.

Some of you have went as low as personal attacks, acting like your back in middle school, and then turning around and saying oh shes only 13, well most of you are acting way younger.

I'm only 15, oh god, I'm actually trying to make someone listen to me when I'm 15! I should just shut up, huh? Because apperently the word of someone not old doesn't matter at all here.

I also don't go to school anymore, for personal reasons, and if anyone wants to insult my grammar, go right ahead.

I'd also like to say, talking about religion with people that arent of yours usally ends up like this, from what I've seen, online and in real life. Because obviosuly, you want the other person to believe you, and visa versa, and it's just not a good idea to talk about unless your both open.

I hope your very, very happy that you ran a child off a site, just because she stated an opinion, even if she did so in a matter that wasnt totally needed, you all climbed up her ass about it, which as well as not needed.


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Also, I'm 15, have been 13, and I've yet to spend a day shopping, painting my fingernails, or doing all those things you thought "most teens do" Thats just another sign that you aren't "open" enough to be talking about anything.
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#119761 - 03/27/05 02:38 AM Re: Jesus on the Cross - Was he dead? Did he Survive?
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Alyssa I don't think Nikkums was yelling - yelling is usually denoted by upper case. To me she was merely trying to get a point across.

To me it doesn't come over as Nikkums running anyone from a site, merely just her expressing an opinion.

As I stated previously, heated emotions shouldn't play any part in a discussion because then it tends to get out of hand.

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#119762 - 03/27/05 02:49 AM Re: Jesus on the Cross - Was he dead? Did he Survive?
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No I wasn't yelling at all and I'm sorry if you took it that way - as Sonia said yelling is upper case and that wasn't what I typed at all.

A discussion, and a healthy one at that can have so many opinions and views and we can all learn from them.

Taking the defensive and saying I ran her off to me shows immaturity. I was merely stating my point of view without being rude.

You have no idea of my age so please - don't make assumptions. I've yet to see a teenager spend all day doing her nails and shopping. Most I know are actively involved in sports or study.

I agree that children be allowed to partake in discussions but only if their emotions don't take over as I've seen in here in the past week and it ends in a slanging match with them threatening to leave, insulting others and being rude etc.

People need to be mature enough to accept another person's point of view no matter how much it differs from their own. Rudeness has no part in it. Now come on people, let's lighten up, just because someone else prefers something different, that's their choice. This world would be a dull and boring place if we all had the same religion, the same God, the same likes and dislikes.

Hey I prefer chocolate ice cream, others prefer vanilla but I don't go getting all steamed up over that.

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