Well, if we are going to worry about the sins of Homo Heidelbergensis, or Homo Erectus, or Homo Neanderthalensis, then I cannot see how the Bible commandments on sin can also have relevance to modern humans, so there is still no logic to it, in my opinion.

Sorry, I know that some other people think differently, but I simply cannot fathom the logic of it.

And yes, surely everything natural in our world has logic to it?
Isn't that why creationists say that there must be a creator? Because of the order of nature?

Even the Bible says that in the beginning there was 'logos' - doesn't that imply logic?

I have seen a few posts that ask what happened to those that died prior to Jesus and where are they spending eternity. Where anyone is in eternity is God's business and not ours. Only God knows the heart of an individual and He is more than able to make provisions for those that do not know Him. He is also a Just God and therefore He is the only one that can pass judgment on anyone and whatever judgment is made by Him will be the right one. Instead of worrying about those who are dead, we need to worry about those who are still alive. If there is a God and we turned people against Him, it will be a terrible day at judgment for us. When we come into His presence we will all bend our knees and confess that He is Lord. He will not have to judge us for we will judge ourselves. Not only will we will feel anguish for having rebelled against Him and having hurt Him, but also when we see those that we led astray, especially when they include our children. We prepare our children to live a good life and have a good education but we fail them in what is the most important thing in their lives and that is where they will spend eternity. You may say to me, I don’t believe in God or your version of God. What if what I’m saying is true? Are you willing to gamble your eternity and that of your children away? Will you at least give God a chance to reveal Himself to you? God does not have to prove Himself to anyone for He is who He is whether you believe Him or not. But He is willing to reason with you, because he does not want anyone to perish. [i]Isaiah 1:18 "Come now, and let us reason together," Says the LORD, "Though your sins are as scarlet, They will be as white as snow; Though they are red like crimson, They will be like wool.[/i] [i] 2 Peter 3:9 The Lord is not slow about His promise, as some count slowness, but is patient toward you, not wishing for any to perish but for all to come to repentance. [/i]

I was not planning on posting any more, but I could not pass up the opportunity to ask you how you know that apemen lived in trees? You stated "We know that apemen lived in the trees before this". Really, you know that? How do you know that? The apeman theory is just that, a theory. There is no evidence of this theory and it is to this date a much debated issue.
Why do you believe it?

Also, as far as whether or not people who came before Jesus will partake of His salvation, scripture reads as follows: "He is the atoning sacrifice for our sins, and not only for ours but also for the sins of the whole world" 1 John 2:2 NIV.

Blessings,

LL

There is much fossil evidence that points to man-type creatures living before our present species type. However, those of us that "know" the truth consider most of that evidence planted to throw people off the true track. In fact, everyone should know that the Flying Spaghetti Monster created the earth, and: "What these people don’t understand is that He built the world to make us think the earth is older than it really is. For example, a scientist may perform a carbon-dating process on an artifact. He finds that approximately 75% of the Carbon-14 has decayed by electron emission to Nitrogen-14, and infers that this artifact is approximately 10,000 years old, as the half-life of Carbon-14 appears to be 5,730 years. But what our scientist does not realize is that every time he makes a measurement, the Flying Spaghetti Monster is there changing the results with His Noodly Appendage." There is no arguing with the truth.

You are absolutely 100% correct there.

Now, what is 'the truth'?

You know, I haven't a clue what the flying spaghetti monster is ...
:rolleyes:

Hi, the 'sin' aspect of this discussion belongs here, but the apemen bit belongs on another thread, so I have transferred the relevant comments here:

Topic: Did God create Neanderthals in his own image?
http://www.wineintro.com/forum/cgi-bin/u...&p=4#000046

http://www.venganza.org/

The Flying Spaghetti Monster was a satirical creation by a physicist from Kansas, responding to the Kansas state Board of Education's vote to include Creationism (Intelligent Design) in the state's biology curriculum.

It was meant to satirize the Christian belief, and he was very effective in doing it.

Aaahh!
Now I understand.

Here's something that Lisa posted back in April 2005