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#126967 - 05/27/06 02:54 PM
Re: Why/when/how does the mindset of the believer diverge from that of the non-believer?
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Tin Star Soulmate
Registered: 04/21/06
Posts: 3666
Loc: Texas, USA
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I'm a heathen and I say grace at meals sometimes.
When I'm in a group of mixed faiths we have a very nice generic grace that goes as follows:
For food, for rainment, for life, for opportunity, for friendship and fellowship, we thank you, o Lord, Amen.
It's called The Philmont Grace from the Philmont Scout Ranch in New mexico.
I also say thanks for my food, but not to God, but to the dairy farmer who woke that morning before dawn to milk the cow so I didn't have to.
I say thanks to the butcher who slaughtered the pig and cow so I didn't have to.
I say thanks to the migrants who picked the lettuce and grapes so I didn't have to.
I say thanks to the truck drivers who hauled the food so I didn't have to.
And sometimes, if I'm in the mood, I will thank the divine being for letting it all happen that day, rather than sending an Earthquake like he did last night in Indonesia, killing 3000 people.
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Science flies you to the moon Religion flies you into buildings
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#126968 - 05/27/06 04:53 PM
Re: Why/when/how does the mindset of the believer diverge from that of the non-believer?
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True Blue Soulmate
Registered: 12/16/04
Posts: 22732
Loc: UK
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I don't think that there is anything wrong with praying, just because one is agnostic.
We don't know if God is there, we don't know what God is - or is like - even if he is there.
Just because we don't know, doesn't make it wrong to pray. You can just pray to the universe or to your deceased ancestors if you wish.
When my Dad died my daughter was five. I told her that Grandad was no longer strong enough to live on earth with us, so he was going to live in heaven with the angels. And maybe he is. It doesn't mean that it's the restricted Christian view of heraven - maybe it's that he is still alive and loved in our hearts.
Anyway, my daughter, being five, interpreted it in her own way. She thought that Grandad had gone to live in fairyland, It made her happy. It was a nice thought. And do I know differently? No. I don't 'know' anything about heaven or hell or fairies or God.
I actually believe in Santa Claus - or Father Christmas, as I call him - not as in him being 'real', but as in the special spirit of love that believing in him brings.
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"The secret of success is constancy to purpose" - Benjamin Disraeli.
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