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#131867 - 08/05/06 05:02 PM Re: Problems in the Middle East - and the Bible
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By attacking the infrastructure, they are cutting off Hezbollah's supply routes.

No supplies, no more rockets, no more food.

That's how you fight a conventional war.
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#131868 - 08/05/06 05:17 PM Re: Problems in the Middle East - and the Bible
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But this is not a conventional war against a conventional enemy.

Hezbollah has probably stockpiled enough arms and supplies to last them a good long while.

Meanwhile, they are laughing their butts off watching all the Christians', Sunnis' and Druzes' stuff getting blown up.

What few supplies they need they can probably get anyway, unless you completely seal off the whole country for months and starve the entire population.

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#131869 - 08/05/06 05:28 PM Re: Problems in the Middle East - and the Bible
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so what supply routes are disabled by bombing refugees, aid and a un outpost?

cappy - of course hezbollah is lebanese. thats what i meant. i guess i fell over myself after finishin my last blim of peshawari charas. ohmmmm...
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#131870 - 08/05/06 09:13 PM Re: Problems in the Middle East - and the Bible
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Remember what you said about sharing! wink

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#131871 - 08/07/06 10:07 AM Re: Problems in the Middle East - and the Bible
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it's one of the curses of really good hash that it always makes you forget to pass on the reefer. my apologies - i'll try harder to observe etiquette in future.
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#131872 - 08/07/06 02:04 PM Re: Problems in the Middle East - and the Bible
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More interesting news about the pictures we've been seeing in Qana.

Aparently someone at Reuters has admitted to doctoring photos to make the devistation look worse than it is.

http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-3286966,00.html#n
http://www.leftandright.us/index.php/site/reuters_faking_photos/

Also there seems to be a common thread with all of these disaster photos. There seems to be be this guy who has appeared in quite a few Lebonese photos as far back as 1996. The same person who doctored the photos above is also responsible for some of the photos we saw of Qana. The thought is that it's a Hizbollah plot to get sympathy from the rest of the world.
http://eureferendum.blogspot.com/2006/07/who-is-this-man.html
http://eureferendum.blogspot.com/2006/08/green-helmet-mystery-continues.html
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#131873 - 08/07/06 04:11 PM Re: Problems in the Middle East - and the Bible
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very weird. it's hard to imagine how anyone thought they'd get away with the smoke thing. you can see the photoshop clone stamping at a glance. it's worth noting though that the 'undoctored' version doesn't actually contain a lot less smoke.

this and the green helmet thing looks to me like an unscrupulus journalist maximising his profits by sensationalising his tories and fleshing them out. not a new phenomenon. just another scumbag lining his pockets on other peoples misery.

the kids in the photo would have had its head blown off whether this character was there or not. note the other people snapping away. in my opinion there is something seriously wrong with anyone who points a camera at a scene like that. thats not journalism, its morbid fascination.

i'm not sure how meaningful it is on a political level. i'm inclined to think that hezbollah would have got sympathy without the doctored pictures. i get a lot of my mainstream news on the radio, so this stuff doesn't even apply there.
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#131874 - 08/07/06 04:47 PM Re: Problems in the Middle East - and the Bible
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Modern war involves a lot of propaganda and sound bites.

Hezbollah aren't the only ones engaging in it.

As a matter of fact, I'd class them as amateur propagandists.

When Hezbollah develops one tenth of the lobbying/propaganda capabilities that the Israelis have here in Washington, then we can talk about a media war.

But those boys learn quickly.

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#131875 - 08/07/06 05:46 PM Re: Problems in the Middle East - and the Bible
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I agree janimal, I think it's disgusting to show this type of stuff. Most journalist would call it "provocative" or "cutting edge". They'll claim that it's just news, but in my opinion it's gross, and I usually just tune it out.

I think that journalists should stick to telling the news, and not putting spin on anything or doctoring the photos to push an agenda. Again, I agree it's some guy's scheme to make money off the deaths of innocents.
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#131876 - 08/07/06 10:12 PM Re: Problems in the Middle East - and the Bible
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Originally posted by Believer:
Also there seems to be a common thread with all of these disaster photos. There seems to be be this guy who has appeared in quite a few Lebonese photos as far back as 1996.
this wouldn't be the same guy who supposedly was on top of the world trade center when it was hit?

(or watching the hindenburg, or in JFK's car....)
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