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#134882 - 11/27/06 06:31 PM Re: Truth about 666, the beast and the seal of beast
Carl Offline
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Registered: 05/27/06
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Whether what I say is prophecy, or not, is up to God. I didn't say that God said for you to do this, or do that, or to believe this or that - as you do, who claims to be a prophet.

I don't claim to be a prophet.

I am an ordinary man, who has lived most of his life in extremes - trying to be extremely good, and trying to be extremely bad. And not doing that good of a job of it.

And I, not knowing a true father's love as a child, didn't know if God truly loved me.

He chose to send a messenger to me to assure me of His love, and to warn me of the direction my life was going in.

If He was willing to do this for an ordinary man, I can infer that He will take whatever unique steps that would be necessary to convince anyone of his existence, reality, and love.

Saying that I have used my own words - apparently you think that is an insult. It is not. You have not heard me say "God says...."

Perhaps I could, and perhaps I will, if I ever feel that God is demanding that I do so.

But I think showing integrity, honesty, and good-neighborliness is a good step toward talking to people about the divine.

Do you feel attacked? Do you feel insulted? Do your thoughts deserve punishment? If so, it is not for me to say. And perhaps, if so, it would be yourself who punishes - rather than God.
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#134883 - 11/27/06 06:57 PM Re: Truth about 666, the beast and the seal of beast
Argyll Offline
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I'm sitting out on this one. It's a little too zaney for me.

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#134884 - 11/27/06 07:18 PM Re: Truth about 666, the beast and the seal of beast
PDM Offline

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Registered: 12/16/04
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Quote:
Originally posted by nickols_k:
Quote:
Originally posted by Carl:
[b] ...
So you say prophecy. I say God's love.

Choose whichever that satisfies you. Or neither.
That's not a prophecy! That's your own words!
I'm prophet but I'm not able to speak prophecy during typing text for internet! [/b]
Carl had a spiritual experience, too. His was different from yours. I don't know what really went on during Carl's experience and I don't know what really went on in yours, but how can you say that his story is just his own words, but that you are a prophet and yours is prophecy?!!
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#134885 - 11/27/06 07:20 PM Re: Truth about 666, the beast and the seal of beast
PDM Offline

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Quote:
Originally posted by nickols_k:
[QUOTE]Originally posted by terryluvsgoldensand keets:
The whole jist of this website is in his near death experience he was GIVEN THE MARK OF THE BEAST, but
yet he will be saved confused confused

and "God Father" has revealed new insights and knowledge to him through prophesy and revelation
while having this near death experience from a Bike (bicycle) accident. His head hit the hard ground. Nothing is indicated that he was taken to a hospital or received any medical treatment.
Nobody needs hospital after rising from afterlife!
If I wouldn't had the death then I would need to visit the hospital
Quote:

...
So did you, or did you not, see a doctor or go to hospital?

You said that you were 'Clinically pronounced dead' ~ can you tell us who pronounced you clinically dead, please?
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#134886 - 11/27/06 07:33 PM Re: Truth about 666, the beast and the seal of beast
PDM Offline

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nickols_k

As Argyll commented, this subject is a bit 'zaney'. People will find this sort of thing difficult to believe, but then, I have had unbelievable things of a different kind happen to me, too, and Carl has received his message from God.

It's easy to dismiss all this as nonsense & imagination ~ and it may well be, but I don't know, I feel that I can't know, because there are too many unanswered questions. That's why I'm agnostic and that's why I ask questions.

You have brought your prophecy to us and I feel that I have to question it ~ partly because it's a bit outlandish, I have to say.

For example, you talk about werewolves. well, maybe they do, or did, exist, but I think that that is unlikely.

You talk about Russians thinking that angels are gods ~ really???

You claim to have the mark of the beast ~ why? What sort of mark? What about Terri..'s comment: 'The Mark of the beast will be an end times "mark" required by the antichrist to buy or sell - and - given only to those who worship the antichrist'?

You keep saying 'Did you distinguish the God and God-Father?' and I asked before: 'So, 'God-Father' is the one God then, which can be subdivided into God-son, God-spirit, etc?? The Trinity. Divisible ~ yet indivisible.'
You tell me whether that's right, because otherwise I do not understand.

I still think that this could all be the result of a bang on the head.


Who was with you when you had your accident?

How long were you unconscious?

What makes you believe that you were clinically dead?

Have you had follow-up medical attention to your head injuries?

What did your family and friends make of all this at the time?

What do they think about it now?

Do you preach about it?

Do people always believe it?
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#134887 - 11/27/06 09:40 PM Re: Truth about 666, the beast and the seal of beast
Carl Offline
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Registered: 05/27/06
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PDM, you said:

"Carl had a spiritual experience, too. His was different from yours. I don't know what really went on during Carl's experience and I don't know what really went on in yours, but how can you say that his story is just his own words, but that you are a prophet and yours is prophecy?!!"

I say: "Exactly!"

I expect that there will always be limited belief of my experience (or at least my interpretation of it). Others who have had similar experiences (and not all of them act zany in there every-day lives) accept it more readily.

Since I believe that it is not the experience that I had which is what others need to have in order to have some knowledge of God, I encourage others to seek their own paths.

Religions offer some satisfaction, but they can turn on you in a heartbeat if a person gives an inkling that they are "different." And we all are different. But many within religious frameworks are afraid to let others see the real person. And that has become the watchword of preachers, pastors, prophets, and "holy" persons, also. I think this is very sad.
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#134888 - 11/28/06 12:15 AM Re: Truth about 666, the beast and the seal of beast
Joe Bloggs Offline
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Registered: 04/16/06
Posts: 1517
Loc: England
I'm not meaning to be nasty here, but.....I wonder if nickols has completely recovered from that bang on the head?

Prophets? Sorcerers, witches and werewolves?

I try to keep an open mind, attempt not to dismiss things out of hand, but....I have to say, this stuff is stretching my credulity.

Nickols seems to genuinely believe it though. I've little doubt he's telling the truth as he sees it.....

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#134889 - 11/28/06 02:15 AM Re: Truth about 666, the beast and the seal of beast
terryluvsgoldens Offline
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Registered: 06/10/06
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LOL@ Joe, your trying to keep an open mind
I can honestly say I am trying also, but I am really finding it quite difficult.

My mind is swirling and I had to stop myself from reading more, as more things keep jumping out at me that just do not make sense or that I can find any logical reasoning for I find it difficult to try and understand, Revelations itself can be mind boggling, but some is cut and dry and there is only one way to interpet it, and yet other parts are symbolic and lead to interpetation.

I do not doubt he believes what he is saying , yet many people have also believed in some not so "kosher" for lack of a better word "visions" Jim Jones, David Karesh, Son of Sam, Charles Manson for examples. They truly believed what they saw and heard.


For Nikol:
The very last verse in Revelations states
"Revelation ends with these verses:

For I testify unto every man that heareth the words of the prophecy of this book, If any man shall add unto these things, God shall add unto him the plagues that are written in this book : And if any man shall take away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God shall take away his part out of the book of life, and out of the holy city, and the things which are written in this book.

Is that not you have done? For me this is cut and dry, nothing to interpet here.
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#134890 - 11/28/06 08:44 AM Re: Truth about 666, the beast and the seal of beast
nickols_k Offline
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Registered: 10/27/06
Posts: 70
Loc: Russia
Quote:
Originally posted by terryluvsgoldensand keets:
LOL@ Joe, your trying to keep an open mind
I can honestly say I am trying also, but I am really finding it quite difficult.

My mind is swirling and I had to stop myself from reading more, as more things keep jumping out at me that just do not make sense or that I can find any logical reasoning for I find it difficult to try and understand, Revelations itself can be mind boggling, but some is cut and dry and there is only one way to interpet it, and yet other parts are symbolic and lead to interpetation.

I do not doubt he believes what he is saying , yet many people have also believed in some not so "kosher" for lack of a better word "visions" Jim Jones, David Karesh, Son of Sam, Charles Manson for examples. They truly believed what they saw and heard.


For Nikol:
The very last verse in Revelations states
"Revelation ends with these verses:

For I testify unto every man that heareth the words of the prophecy of this book, [b]If any man shall add unto these things, God shall add unto him the plagues that are written in this book : And if any man shall take away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God shall take away his part out of the book of life, and out of the holy city, and the things which are written in this book.


Is that not you have done? For me this is cut and dry, nothing to interpet here. [/b]
Does that matter if all people have wrongly translated Revelation?
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#134891 - 11/28/06 11:02 AM Re: Truth about 666, the beast and the seal of beast
PDM Offline

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And you have correctly translated it?

How could you know that?

If that is what you believe, fair enough, but what about those who believe differently?
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