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#137084 - 02/08/07 12:00 AM Re: Can God Be Wrong? Can God Do Wrong?
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so were are subject to his laws...

was it also some sort of a law that God needed to send his other self/son/Jesus to die for our sins?

Who forgives sins? God right?
so to whom was the sacrifice is for?
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#137085 - 02/08/07 12:09 AM Re: Can God Be Wrong? Can God Do Wrong?
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man wasnt as destructful and bad as man is today. the babies being born in some parts of the world are more inclined to do bad things or shall we say will have the cancer. if there's God im sure he knew this will happen.

so whats the flood for if we are to turn out like this anyway?
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#137086 - 02/08/07 12:11 AM Re: Can God Be Wrong? Can God Do Wrong?
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Originally posted by janimal:
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yes, there are a large number of people who, according to the bible lived several centuries. to be honest it seems a little silly to take the chronologies literally considering the limitations of how far you can stretch a fast metabolism land mammal.
That is now, and again that is also Biblical. God limits our life span to 120yrs some time after Noah. We haven't even come close to breaking the genetic code in it's entirety, so we don't know what limits we have.

Consider this, I write a program to run for 5 hours and stop. I then decide that my program is causing more harm than good by running so long so I dial it back to 2 hours. The program doesn't know that it was supposed to run for 5, all it knows is it's new code says 2, so that's what will happen. [/b]
Maybe that one is worth it's own thread?!?

Maybe our genetic code 'programs' us to live to a certain age and then self-destruct.....if the code could be altered, maybe lifespan could be increased.

Is this limitation deliberately set by 'God'?

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#137087 - 02/08/07 12:26 AM Re: Can God Be Wrong? Can God Do Wrong?
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could be...


if other creatures lifespan are shorter...say mosquitoes which usually as i remember die after a couple days feeding on blood for if it lives more than that imagine how pest infested are we today :p
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#137088 - 02/08/07 01:09 AM Re: Can God Be Wrong? Can God Do Wrong?
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Originally posted by santino:
so were are subject to his laws...

was it also some sort of a law that God needed to send his other self/son/Jesus to die for our sins?

Who forgives sins? God right?
so to whom was the sacrifice is for?
Ok according to the Bible blood is the source of life, and the only thing that can satify a sin debt is the life or blood of an innocent. So animal's lives were exchanged to "cover" a sin debt.

But again God said that this too would be temporary, and that He would provide the perfect sacrifice to end animal sacrifice. This leads to Him providing Himself as a sacrifice for our sin debt.
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#137089 - 02/08/07 01:35 AM Re: Can God Be Wrong? Can God Do Wrong?
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Originally posted by santino:
man wasnt as destructful and bad as man is today. the babies being born in some parts of the world are more inclined to do bad things or shall we say will have the cancer. if there's God im sure he knew this will happen.

so whats the flood for if we are to turn out like this anyway?
Just because we have the ability to kill more people at once than they did back then does not mean that we're more evil than they were back then.

Consider this, man back then practiced human sacrifice, warfare was just as brutal, there was no such thing as women's rights, or rights for that matter. So while the way we sin might have changed, sin itself hasn't.
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#137090 - 02/08/07 01:43 AM Re: Can God Be Wrong? Can God Do Wrong?
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isn't there some genetic disorder that goes hand in hand with a family name in the deep south?
Actually I think the ignorance disease in the south is not so much genetic as it is environmentally determined... laugh

Seriously - I think you might be thinking of Huntingdon's disease? I think it is more prevalent in the south - it claimed the life of Arlo Guthrie ... or was it Woody Guthrie .. one of them. It does not manifest until into one's 40s, usually after they have had children, at which point they go down hill pretty fast. There is a 50/50 chance of passing it along to the offspring but often the diagnosis comes after they've had their kids. But now you can be genetically tested for it.

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#137091 - 02/08/07 03:37 AM Re: Can God Be Wrong? Can God Do Wrong?
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Originally posted by Believer:
Ok according to the Bible blood is the source of life, and the only thing that can satify a sin debt is the life or blood of an innocent. So animal's lives were exchanged to "cover" a sin debt.

But again God said that this too would be temporary, and that He would provide the perfect sacrifice to end animal sacrifice. This leads to Him providing Himself as a sacrifice for our sin debt.
a sin debt to whom?

animal sacrifices are towards God right?

so to whom was God sacrifing himself too? to himself? paying our debt of sin to himself by sacrificing himself to himself?


thanks for answering.
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#137092 - 02/08/07 03:39 AM Re: Can God Be Wrong? Can God Do Wrong?
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Originally posted by Believer:
Just because we have the ability to kill more people at once than they did back then does not mean that we're more evil than they were back then.

Consider this, man back then practiced human sacrifice, warfare was just as brutal, there was no such thing as women's rights, or rights for that matter. So while the way we sin might have changed, sin itself hasn't.
if thats the case, then why not send a flood again? to cleanse the face of earth for his favored race?
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#137093 - 02/08/07 07:26 AM Re: Can God Be Wrong? Can God Do Wrong?
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Hey Gang!

Let's try to keep one thing in mind: If God IS real...the Bible has very little to do with an accurate telling of His story. There's a reason all of this goes against the grey matter!

I'm back in the saddle and riding tall! Giddy-up!

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