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#186717 - 05/30/07 03:11 AM Help! Parakeet laying eggs
sandybeach Offline
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I have 3 parakeets. 1 adult male, 1 adult female and 1 young female. My adult female keeps laying eggs. The vet told me to just get rid of eggs because it will never happen. She had stopped for awhile and now she is back laying again with 4 eggs. All she does is lay there, hoping the eggs will hatch. I don't know what to do. Should I take the eggs out?
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#186722 - 05/30/07 07:18 AM Re: Help! Parakeet laying eggs [Re: sandybeach]
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Yes, take the eggs out, BUT you HAVE to then put in white marbles that are the same size as the eggs, so the female will think those are the eggs. If you just throw the eggs away she will keep laying and layng and laying and then she will be low on calcium, use up all her energy and die. frown So PLEASE replace them with marbles. But what does your vet mean by "because it will never happen"?
Welcome to the forums and good luck. smile
And btw, it is not recomended to have 2 females and one male in the same cage because the females will fight over the males.
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#186724 - 05/30/07 07:48 AM Re: Help! Parakeet laying eggs [Re: Stephen]
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3budgies well said.

Yes remove the eggs but put in a placebo egg i.e. marble, plastic egg or something resembling the size.

Give her some calcium and vitamins too as she'll be needing them.

Have to admit I'd like to know what your vet meant by that too, rather puzzling.

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#186732 - 05/30/07 08:44 AM Re: Help! Parakeet laying eggs [Re: Aerial]
OdinLove Offline
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SO can you just get rid of the nes5ting box
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#186748 - 05/30/07 10:31 AM Re: Help! Parakeet laying eggs [Re: OdinLove]
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Chronic egg laying is a very common problem in cockatiels, lovebirds, and budgies; and is seen in other species of pet birds including macaws, cockatoos, amazons, and African greys. This problem can begin in your bird as early as nine months or as late as several years of age. The most common age range is from one to three years.

The process of producing and laying an egg is an incredible feat of nature. A bird utilizes various proteins and minerals to build a container that can sustain a life for several days and up to several weeks. Within this container all of the necessary functions of life are carried out - eating, drinking, sleeping, waste disposal, breathing, growth and development, and so on. This is amazing to say the least!

The process of producing and laying an egg is stimulated by many factors. Day length, food availability, mate behavior, rainfall, competition for nesting sites, and many other factors can stimulate hens to lay an egg. It is not necessary that an egg be fertilized before it can be lain. In fact, a mate does not even need to be present for a female to lay eggs.

The shell of an egg is made primarily of calcium. The calcium comes from calcium stores within the bird's body. The bones and muscles provide nearly all of the calcium required to shell an egg. The calcium that is lost in forming the shell needs to be replaced so the body can continue to function properly. Calcium is primarily needed for muscle contractions and building strong bones. In the case of chronic egg laying, calcium stores are depleted and the body is unable to function properly. The condition is known as hypocalcemia. The most common problem in egg laying females associated with hypocalcemia is egg binding. With calcium at a low level the uterine muscles are unable to contract and push the egg out. Hypocalcemia can also cause seizure-like activity and brittle bones, which can be easily fractured.

During the laying cycle birds will begin holding their droppings for an extended period of time. This behavior is related to keeping the nest clean and free of poop. Often the bird will release large, loose, foul smelling, and discolored droppings. The odor is due to the presence of bacteria and yeast in the droppings. It is important to prevent excessive egg laying, since it can lead to many health problems. The most important factor in preventing health-related problems is nutrition. It is vital to be sure that your bird is on a complete and balanced diet. No diet is better or more complete than a formulated or pelleted diet. Pellets offer all essential nutrients in the correct ratios. Seeds are very inadequate in preventing problems related to excessive egg laying. Seeds have no calcium, almost no phosphorous, no vitamin A, and no vitamin D; all of which are essential in calcium absorption and utilization. Seeds are also deficient in essential amino acids (protein) and are unable to replace the protein lost in forming the inside of the egg (the yolk, albumin, and fetal membranes).

The first step in treating chronic egg laying is to put your bird on a complete diet. A bird that is on an balanced diet is in little danger of the health problems associated with chronic egg laying. The next step is to have your bird examined by an avian veterinarian for a complete work up, including exam, blood work, cultures, and all necessary treatments. Your veterinarian will be looking for bacterial and yeast infections related to holding in the poops, signs of poor nutrition and stress, and clinical signs of calcium deficiency. The next step is to decrease the amount of light your bird receives during the day. You want to provide them with a maximum of 10 hours of light per day. This will help prevent hormone release that leads to egg production.

Birds will lay one egg every other day with an average total number of up to 5 or 6 eggs. When your bird does lay an egg, you should leave it in the cage. If you remove it you will stimulate production of more eggs.

Finally, you should remove anything that may be stimulating breeding behavior. Dark, confining spaces such as shoeboxes, bags, cabinets and other places can serve as a nest. Disallow association with such places. Don't stroke your bird on the back, especially during her breeding period. Leave the grates on the bottom of the cage to give an unsuitable place to lay and sit on eggs. On rare occasions, females will chose a favorite toy or perch for masturbating. This item should be removed it your bird exhibits this behavior. Other changes may need to be made depending on your bird's environment and play habits.

A mate is not a solution for the chronic egg layer. Mates will only perpetuate the problem, not solve it. Your bird may become less concerned about you, bond to the other bird, want to reproduce, and you will lose the nice pet you have always had.

We, as responsible owners, should work to prevent excessive egg laying. Prevention can be accomplished by controlling these stimuli and providing balanced nutrition to our pet birds, which is critical in reducing the risk of secondary disease associated with chronic egg laying.

In summary, improve the diet, decrease the photo period, leave the eggs in the cage, remove any breeding stimulation that may be contributing to the problem, and see your avian veterinarian for a physical exam, diagnostics, and treatments.

i also read somewhere that if your bird is very comfortable in there environment they feel like they are in paradise, they will start laying and laying and laying because they feel extra safe so try this, rearrange everything in her cage toys,perchs, etc etc move the cage to a separate room. so that she feels like shes in a different place. also REMOVE THE MATE!!!!!!!!!!! thats a common sense thing to do if you dont want her to lay eggs.
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#186749 - 05/30/07 10:36 AM Re: Help! Parakeet laying eggs [Re: *6 budgie nutz*]
*6 budgie nutz* Offline
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SO DO NOT REMOVE THE EGGS!!!!!!!!!!!
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#186753 - 05/30/07 11:07 AM Re: Help! Parakeet laying eggs [Re: *6 budgie nutz*]
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If you don't want babies, I'd suggest (like the others) removing the eggs and replacing them with white marbles about the size of the eggs. Otherwise, if you leave them in the cage, you could possibly end up with baby keets.

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#186758 - 05/30/07 12:24 PM Re: Help! Parakeet laying eggs [Re: Skittles and Peaches]
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well the thing is if you remove the eggs like stated above its just going to cause the female to keep laying eggs. and that is very unhealthy for the female it could end up being fatal so your best bet if you want your female to live is to leave the eggs and do as mentioned above! i got all that info from a breeder website. so i think i would listen to a experianced breeder rather than others that dont have that much experiance.
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#186773 - 05/30/07 01:02 PM Re: Help! Parakeet laying eggs [Re: *6 budgie nutz*]
sandybeach Offline
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Registered: 05/30/07
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I give them vitamins in their water and also mix with grains and greens by ecotrition with their food. What vegetables and fruits do you recommend? My parakeet lays on her 4 eggs and thank god she hasn't had any more eggs. I feel so bad because she just lay at the bottom of cage. I have taken her to the vet in Febuary because she kept laying eggs. The vet told me that the bird looks good.

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#186774 - 05/30/07 01:06 PM Re: Help! Parakeet laying eggs [Re: Stephen]
sandybeach Offline
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Registered: 05/30/07
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The vet meant the eggs will never hatch because you need the proper stuff for breeding. I have left the eggs there and she just lays on them.

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