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#134872 - 11/26/06 11:34 PM Re: Truth about 666, the beast and the seal of beast
Argyll Offline
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If there is a God, and he is as hateful as our friend suggests, then I would expect to see a world devoid of beauty and pleasure. I look at the beauty that we see in nature, and I can't help but think that the appreciation of our natural surroundings is one of our real pleasures in life. How can such a "loser" of a god create something that gives us so much pleasure?

I have to say that if Nick really believes that his god hates him so much, he must be a real depressing guy to be around. He must be missing out on a lot of pleasure in life. To that I say, wake up and get a life. Get on with living. Life is too short!

And PDM, if there's a god, woman is his finest work. I love women and everything they represent. The female body is a work of art. The female way of nurturing, giving and loving is beyond compare. The older I get, I appreciate women more and more, and I realize that the softness they bring into the world is probably what keeps us from destroying each other.

So, I would say that if there is a god or gods, there must be a feminine diety to balance things out.

Hats off to the ladies of the world!

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#134873 - 11/27/06 12:32 AM Re: Truth about 666, the beast and the seal of beast
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The whole jist of this website is in his near death experience he was GIVEN THE MARK OF THE BEAST, but
yet he will be saved confused confused

and "God Father" has revealed new insights and knowledge to him through prophesy and revelation
while having this near death experience from a Bike (bicycle) accident. His head hit the hard ground. Nothing is indicated that he was taken to a hospital or received any medical treatment.

One insight given is the meaning of 666
He he claims that 666 people will recieve the mark and be saved. and he has his mark already!

and I think and here I reiterate I think Nikol is using the word hate in a context that does not lead to the understanding of the word in English.
I think what he might be trying to say is because "God Father is ominiscient, he has the ability to hate as well as love, and it's not that he loves man, but that he loves the World his creation confused

It seem's that Nikol has taken Revelations, interpeted it fully and rewritten certain things
because of his experience. There are even references to werewolves.

Now this is my interpetion of what he has written on the website,where it has been translated from one language to another and has a fairly good command of the English language, and there are many syntatical errors so you guys can take it from there...................

Timothy Leary is calling........... eek
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#134874 - 11/27/06 01:03 AM Re: Truth about 666, the beast and the seal of beast
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Thanks for a very good precis of his position. That was pretty much my take, even without visiting the website.

That clumsiness of speech might be understood if it were consistent. But it is interspersed with very smooth work. Groups or organizations? And I've seen this pattern among several posters the last three months.

Funny comment about Leary.

Now, I could feel comfortable in a service onboard Willie Nelson's bus.
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#134875 - 11/27/06 01:11 AM Re: Truth about 666, the beast and the seal of beast
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Well, I have to admit, I only had a very brief look at the original essay. I find that I can't spend too much time on long narratives.

Anyway, I thought I'd have a better look:

'At the age of thirteen I was thrown into another world by a fateful accident. Clinically pronounced dead, I returned from the afterlife with knowledge rarely glimpsed by the average person.'

'The material of this article partially was received through the prophecies of God-Father and partially based on my own observations.'[nickols_k]


So basically, as a result of what must have been a life-changing experience, nickols_k has indeed changed his life.

But the change is based only partly on the experience itself, the rest relates to his own observations.

And, of course, we can all observe & interpret.

'I have received the seal of the beast in afterlife'

'The beast did fight me by right paw. Since that time I have the seal of beast on left cheek. Right after that God-Father said me what I will have for mark of beast on my left cheek.'


What actually is this? Did the doctors comment on it? Could it be a scar?

'When I did raise my head then darkness was only thing what I may watch around me. This darkness looks like black fog. It's possible to say that within of this gloom was impossible to watch out something. The beast is only who rambles in that black fog. The beast was badly studied by me because there was poor illumination. Only thing that I remember is gigantic size of the beast. The beast was with mask'

This could quite easily be explained as the workings of an injured brain, I should imagine. The events which occurred ~ ie the bike accident ~ might not have been a dream, but the 'story' that was experienced could have been something like a dream.

'In the next moment of time I was anticipated from gloom and was rise on 50-100 meters up. I watched Road to Heaven. I watched that on that Road were people who pointed me to side of Kingdom of Heaven by hands and tried to say me something. But there was too big distance between us and I can't hear them.'

This sounds fairly typical of near-death-experiences, I think.
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#134876 - 11/27/06 01:36 AM Re: Truth about 666, the beast and the seal of beast
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Now some comments on beliefs:

'if man doesn't inherit the hell then the first who meets us in afterlife world is the BEAST which is described in Bible, but not God as many may think! There is a rule - beast must not be called a God! Nobody must be called a God except Creator and those who are able to say: "I'm a man". You should to try don't call men a Gods regardless the fact that Bible teaches us that Creator did apply God status to men but not to fallen angels. In general, you should try to speak the word God as rare as possible. '

This is a bit confusing, but basically sounds like ~ do not take the Lord God's name in vain.

'Angels and archangels same as fallen angels (demons devils etc) must not be called Gods - they are sataning from that. The main problem is that angels same as fallen angels are not only who are sataning when somebody calls them a Gods. God-Father is sataning too in this case.'

Who does say that angels are Gods???

I suppose that if God is omnipotent, then he could be the devil, too. Someone else posted this a while ago.

And I have said that the descriptions of God in the Old Testament are often unpleasant.

'In our time almost all translations of Bible are inaccurate and sometimes have no common with original books.
There are 3 translation of Bible in Russian and 8 - in English. So please don't think that you have most precise translation '


We have discussed biblical errors, mistranslations, etc, etc. on other threads, so we do know about these.

'True God is one and not divisible!'

'The True God is one and is three-are-one. "For there are Three that bear record in Heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Spirit: and These three are one". The three are one is:
God-Father (Jehovah).
Holy Spirit.
Jesus.
'I need to comment that is possible to mix up Holy Spirit with Spirit of God-Father and you will have no punishment for that due the fact that God IS ONE AND NOT DIVISIBLE, same as to mix up God-Father with Jesus.'


So, 'God-Father' is the one God then, which can be subdivided into God-son, God-spirit, etc??

The Trinity. Divisible ~ yet indivisible.


'It is enough to know about God-Father that He is omnipotent omniscient omnipresent and abiding for ages! Also He is merciful and gracious and nobody is as gracious as God-Father.'

I think that most of us were taught this at sunday school, etc.

'Bible teaches us that God is love and God is truth! I need to say that God is love and God is truth to those who get know God as God. "He that loves not knows not God; for God is love". With other people He is omnipotent. As I was informed in prophecy: "God-Father hates us but does that not very heavily". Previous Creations he did hate heavily. There are people who were beloved by God-Father but they had personal prophecies about that.'

If God is love, why would he hate?

But as I said, the God of the OT is vengeful and doers appear to hate us ~ otherwise why the flood?

'Previous Creations he did hate heavily.' ??? confused

'This world is not a first but last world. Previous worlds were destroyed by Creator. This world will never be destroyed because Creator loves it! "For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believes in him should not perish, but have everlasting life". God-Father did explain me in prophecy that solitude is main goal due that He became creating of worlds! The fact that He loves this world has multiple confirmations to the people who know God as God! That is still one reason why this world never will be destroyed! '

I cannot understand why a God who wants solitude would create mankind ~ seven times over. Or create his own son to die for us? Or why a God who is love would destroy his creation?

I'm sure that I have read of a religion which believes that this is the 7th created world. confused

Why does he love this one and not the others?

Did the other destructions include Noah's flood?

'It's possible to add that the world in which we are living is not 3D-world. Else it's impossible to explain how angels become invisible. During that angels may watch themselves. Their body keeps the same weight during that.'

Well, yes, I think that there is the possibility of another plane.

The point is nickols_k that I can see some of your logic, but I don't necessarily accept it all. It's your opinions, interpretations & conclusions. You have every right to them and they may even be correct, but we can't really know what is what.

You have interpreted the Bible, based on your own experiences and we can all do that. I think that the Bible is a set of ancient stories, dreams, religious beliefs, letters, myths, hopes, expectations and propaganda, etc, etc. It may or may not be of great spiritual importance ~ I tend to doubt that, though.

I do think that there is a spiritual aspect to our lives and I am developing my own theories. Some might be the same as yours and some may not.

I remain agnostic.
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#134877 - 11/27/06 01:37 AM Re: Truth about 666, the beast and the seal of beast
terryluvsgoldens Offline
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Now from my understanding of the Mark of the Beast

QUOTE:
'The beast did fight me by right paw. Since that time I have the seal of beast on left cheek. Right after that God-Father said me what I will have for mark of beast on my left cheek.'

This mark acts as a "seal" for the followers of antichrist and the false prophet (the spokesperson for the antichrist). The false prophet (the second beast) is the one who causes people to take this mark. The mark is literally placed in the hand or forehead.

The Mark of the beast will be an end times "mark" required by the antichrist to buy or sell - and - given only to those who worship the antichrist.


Now I ask How in blue blazes do you receive the mark before the events that Revelations states
have started, and how once you have the mark are you saved????
Quote"
SEAL. Bible says nothing about that but the seal can be only one! It's impossible to have both seals: the seal of beast and seal of Lamb simultaneously!!! Here is wisdom - saints will never receive the seal of beast because they already have the seal of Lamb!!


Huh? again if you have the mark of the beast, it's a done deal according to the scripture you won't get the mark of the lamb, so without the mark of the lamb you are not getting saved from my understanding yet somehow he has the mark of the beast yet he is saved?????????? eek

From my understanding you must take or accept the mark of the beast, it's not just placed on you with out prior acceptance.


Now here's another one to ponder
Quote:
God-Father did inform me in prophecy that such plague is not for sorcerers, witches and werewolves. In general, that's maximal punishment and any caller of spirits should try to avoid that.
werewolves ??????????

oh that's right werewoves are in London!

~He's the hairy-handed gent who ran amok in Kent
Lately he's been overheard in Mayfair
You better stay away from him
He'll rip your lungs out, jim
Ha, I'd like to meet his tailor~ Warren Zevon
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#134878 - 11/27/06 05:46 PM Re: Truth about 666, the beast and the seal of beast
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Quote:
Originally posted by Carl:
Just when I thought you might be learning to dialogue a bit!

Quite frankly, I find neither translation to be very understandable - or believable as it stands. And I have seeen and heard all kinds of interpretations given.

By the way, I don't think your translation distinction about the spirit is correct. I think it is an example of circular reasoning. You have an experience, and you have to explain it, and so you re-write everything to fit in.
I received this information from prophecy!
Btw, Russian bible has teh word SPIRIT in this place!
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#134879 - 11/27/06 06:00 PM Re: Truth about 666, the beast and the seal of beast
Carl Offline
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Jim Jones got his from prophecy, also.

An angel of the Lord came to me, but he did not speak to me about marks of the beast, but rather my relationship to God, and the love He has for me. And the love of God for me is for the me who is as I am. I believe God wants me to share this freedom and love - as a good neighbor and as a friend to whomever I meet.

So my truth is that each of us can have a relationship with God - not that you have to take certain steps as given by some prophet or holy man or priest or any man.

So you say prophecy. I say God's love.

Choose whichever that satisfies you. Or neither.
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#134880 - 11/27/06 06:01 PM Re: Truth about 666, the beast and the seal of beast
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Quote:
Originally posted by terryluvsgoldensand keets:
The whole jist of this website is in his near death experience he was GIVEN THE MARK OF THE BEAST, but
yet he will be saved confused confused

and "God Father" has revealed new insights and knowledge to him through prophesy and revelation
while having this near death experience from a Bike (bicycle) accident. His head hit the hard ground. Nothing is indicated that he was taken to a hospital or received any medical treatment.
Nobody needs hospital after rising from afterlife!
If I wouldn't had the death then I would need to visit the hospital
Quote:

and I think and here I reiterate I think Nikol is using the word hate in a context that does not lead to the understanding of the word in English.
I think what he might be trying to say is because "God Father is ominiscient, he has the ability to hate as well as love, and it's not that he loves man, but that he loves the World his creation
If you are able to read russian then there is largest section about werewolves!
Quote:

What actually is this? Did the doctors comment on it? Could it be a scar?
I don't need the commentaries of medicine! I have the mark of beast that is best evidence of my visit in afterlife!
Quote:

Who does say that angels are Gods???
That's rather for Russian readers who have problem with this question due wrong russian translations of bible!
Quote:

If God is love, why would he hate?
Did you distinguish the God and God-Father?
Quote:

Now I ask How in blue blazes do you receive the mark before the events that Revelations states
have started, and how once you have the mark are you saved????
My savior is faith but not mark
Quote:

werewolves ??????????
Man-dog! &#1054;&#1041;&#1054;&#1056;&#1054;&#1058;&#1045;&#1053;&#1068; in russian!
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#134881 - 11/27/06 06:03 PM Re: Truth about 666, the beast and the seal of beast
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Quote:
Originally posted by Carl:
Jim Jones got his from prophecy, also.

An angel of the Lord came to me, but he did not speak to me about marks of the beast, but rather my relationship to God, and the love He has for me. And the love of God for me is for the me who is as I am. I believe God wants me to share this freedom and love - as a good neighbor and as a friend to whomever I meet.

So my truth is that each of us can have a relationship with God - not that you have to take certain steps as given by some prophet or holy man or priest or any man.

So you say prophecy. I say God's love.

Choose whichever that satisfies you. Or neither.
That's not a prophecy! That's your own words!
I'm prophet but I'm not able to speak prophecy during typing text for internet!
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