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#252006 - 02/03/08 10:26 PM
Re: Truth about 666, the beast and the seal of bea
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True Blue Soulmate
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...Outlive great anguish and deprivation, dedicated to the Lord saying: It is God tries me, it's He tries my faith and watches: wheather I worthy of His and His Kingdom.
So dies whole and in the mud and wounds, unable to grumble at the Lord.
So dies and, holding a unfounded hopes for Paradise.
So dies and, failing to grasp all the impotence of Christ.
Because there are no heroes of the Christ in His glory, but - martyrs..... My take on this is... When Christians suffer, there is a tendency to say that God has sent them a trial, to see if they are worthy, but when they die, there may be no heaven and no glory, so they may believe that they die in Christ, but if there is no Jesus, then they are misguided because of unfounded hopes.
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#252008 - 02/03/08 10:29 PM
Re: Truth about 666, the beast and the seal of bea
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True Blue Soulmate
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....Not wisers speak from His name but squalids.
Because, as told His devotees: Az unworthy ...
Your Jesus is God of unworthy.
Do you know Christ? Did He admid you to his innermost?
Or are you still under control of his servants - pastors?
So, I will say to you that the pastor who believes in Christ is like blindman - guider of blindmen. Because he does not know where is target, and his flock of one another leads.
Unbelieving pastor same is worse of scoundrell.
Has flock to false goals, knowing full falsity of it. Maintains all, but did not approaching it any closer.... From this I get something like, no-one actually has met Jesus, so we get messages from ministers ~ who don't really know the truth about Jesus, either, so they are blindly leading the blind. If he is a scoundrel, who doesn't even believe in what he is doing, then that is obviously worse.
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#252019 - 02/03/08 10:39 PM
Re: Truth about 666, the beast and the seal of bea
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True Blue Soulmate
Registered: 12/16/04
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...Go to Him, if you believe to anybody in the word.
Go to Him, if you think that not your parents conceived you, shading with it their love and their desire, but He breathed life into you.
Go to Him, if you believe that out of the mud, the Creator created his image and likeness, and named he - Adam.
Go to Him, if you are frightened Knowledge.
Go to Him, if sex is sin for you, and the only way of coupling for continuing of family.
Go to him, if you not believe into yourself. Go to Him, if you are weak and the poor in spirit.
... I think that this is just pointing out the Christian belief in the Creation is not logical ~ which is what a lot of agnostics, atheists, and even Christians bnelieve. Some, but not all, Christians ~ ~doubt evolution, ~do not like questions ~consider sex to be sinful unless it is for procreation If you support this, then be a Christian, but if you do not agree, then have strength and courage of your convictions and refrain from Christianity. Again, this just seems like agnosticism to me. I dopn't class him as agnostic, but this in itself doesn'ty seem worrying ~ if I have understood it correctly.
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#252027 - 02/03/08 10:48 PM
Re: Truth about 666, the beast and the seal of bea
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True Blue Soulmate
Registered: 12/16/04
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....But look around you, human. Where do you see evil?
This world doesn't contain good or evil. What do you CALL with these words?
Look, if who does that what has name - evil, why did he do this? Loneliness pushes him to do so, despair, poverty and disease. Or bad education is cause of that. Or crazy. Or he does not know that works. Or should he strongest of the reasons - necessary.
And where do you see in the Nature the evil? You simply do not accept its laws. Because they are not for a man.
Evil comes to the world only when there are eye which sighted evil, where evil does not in fact. When exists a heart, which feels evil where it does not exist.
The evil born in this heart. And no more of it anywhere. And it comes into this world, when someone tries to do good.
It's impossible to make a good, without causing evil for someone. It's impossible to make evil, whithout causing good for someone.
And neither evil nor good not rule in this world, because they do not exist. .... As I see it, this is a subject we have discussed before ~ is there 'evil' in the world, as in 'an evil force'? I get the impressuion that he doesn't seem to think so, (and neither do I, actually). Often people do things that are considered 'evil' because of something that has happened to them & affected them badly, or because they are mentally ill ~ so they act in a way that they cannot really help; they are not inherantly 'evil'. 'Evil', as a term, exists because of us humans; because we have an understanding of what is good and what is bad ~ right & wrong. We 'invent' evil, if you like. We need 'good' to understand 'bad'. There is no 'evil in nature, even though things happern that we might perceive as bad ~ it is only our understanding and definition that makes it 'evil'. Again, just my take on this.
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#252030 - 02/03/08 10:51 PM
Re: Truth about 666, the beast and the seal of bea
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Without meaning to be nasty, I think he may have psychological problems. He did tell us, way back on this thread, that he had his 'near-death experience' due to a blow to the head; whether he's still suffering the effects of that blow, I don't know.
But I also think he has developed a pretty strange interpretation of Revelation (which isn't hard to do, its pretty cryptic to start with) and I think he may really see himself in this Antichrist / prophet role, except, of course, he believes that the Antichrist is the true Christ.
Maybe I'm just reading too much into it, I don't know. I think the dude may need some help, and as I say, I don't mean that in a horrible way.
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