It has sense! It's because getting know God-Father as God doesn't garranty salvation from lake of fire!
God-Father is not changing! But God-Father is omnipotent! It's very difficult task to decode characteristics of God-Father! He never created you! You were borned from parents. We are sinful because flesh was given as scratch to every creature! Any creatures must win the flesh! Else flesh will win creature and this fact has dangerous results!
Do you love every fron program which exist in your home PC? But you will never erase them because they are useful for other program which were beloved by you! Hope such analogy will help you understand world!
Finely speaking, those who were beloved by God-Father had personal prophecy about that!
God-Father loves those who were beloved by Him!
When God-Father behave Himself as God with those who got know He as God then He is love but even in this case He hates those in His hearth except those who were beloved by Him!
Did you have anger sometime?
If you are able to be evil then how much more God-Father is omnipotent to behave Himself not as God?
He hates us but does that not very heavily! It was not a choice! It because we are consisting from flesh!
Please pray as I teached in my article and most probably you will receive the answer! IMHO it would be better if such question will be answered by God-Father personally!

If there is a God...he/she provided the spark which set the evolution of things in motion. Everything else is mere philosophical. You can philosophize over a rock, but at the end of the day, it's just a rock.

Rock on!

Mark

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Do you think that this apparent knowledge that you are imparting to us has been given to you alone?

Many people, over the centuries, have developed their own interpretation of God, or had special spiritual experiences, but, if they are all different, or seem different, or are hard to comprehend, how do we know what is right?

I realise that your near-death-experience has had a significant effect on you, but how do I know that your experience has taught you something about God, rather than just being a very interesting dream?

You may note that other people on this forum have their own understanding of what God wants and expects, how do we know who is right?

This article is fruit of me repention! Populzation of me article is bringing of this fruit!
Many people don't distinguish the difference between God and God-Father!
What is dream? Do you believe that dreams are product of human thoughts? All has owb source!
All dreams which we dream are not result of cerebral working. All dreams which we have are granted to us from above!

But my NDE was not a dream! Because I have the mark of beast! I can't prove this fact through internet! I can prove my mark of beast during personal meeting only!
If somebody has doubts then I would recommend to pray about receiving a revelation or prophecy about doubts! Guess answer of God-Father would be better solution for all who are in doubts!

I also tell people that God will help them know He is for real - in the way that makes sense to them. I don't say "pray" - because people think of it in the ways they see others doing it for show, or by rote. I think the best prayer is just natural talk - "Help me, God, because I don't understand."

An answer may not be instantaneous, and it might even be possible to refuse to accept it. Each of us have that choice.

But, let's say that people on this board did as you suggest - not that we come to you to personally see the "mark of the beast" (would there be a charge for that - perhaps a donation?). But let's say that we pray, and God gives us answers.

And let's say that all our answers are different than yours.

Would that mean that ours are wrong? Would that mean that yours is wrong?

Oh, by the way, I caught your two barbs:

Do we think that dreams....

And you guess that answer of God-Father would be a better solution for us.

I guess that if the game doesn't suit you, you take your marbles and go home?

About Bible's translations:

Example (KJV):
Revelation 13:11 And I beheld another beast coming up out of the earth; and he had two horns like a lamb, and he spoke as a dragon. And he exercises all the power of the first beast before him, and causes the earth and them who dwell therein to worship the first beast, whose deadly wound was healed. And he does great wonders, so that he makes fire come down from sky on the earth in the sight of men, And deceives them that dwell on the earth by the means of those miracles which he had power to do in the sight of the beast; saying to them that dwell on the earth, that they should make an image to the beast, which had the wound by a sword, and did live. And he had power to put life unto the image of the beast, that image of the beast should both speak, and cause that as many as would not worship the image of the beast should be killed.

Correct translation:

Revelation 13:11 And I beheld another beast coming up out of the earth; and he had two horns like a lamb, and he spoke as a dragon. And he exercises all the power of the first beast before him, and causes the earth and them who dwell therein to worship the first beast, whose deadly wound was healed. And he does great wonders, so that he makes fire come down from sky on the earth in the sight of men, And deceives them that dwell on the earth by the means of those miracles which he had power to do in the sight of the beast; saying to them that dwell on the earth, that they should make an image to the beast, which had the wound by a sword, and did live. And he had power to put spirit (o. pneuma) into the image of the beast, that image of the beast should both speak, and cause that as many as would not worship the image of the beast should be killed.

Please understand this this place means ROD OF IRON which is spirit of beast but not spirit of life!

Just when I thought you might be learning to dialogue a bit!

Quite frankly, I find neither translation to be very understandable - or believable as it stands. And I have seeen and heard all kinds of interpretations given.

By the way, I don't think your translation distinction about the spirit is correct. I think it is an example of circular reasoning. You have an experience, and you have to explain it, and so you re-write everything to fit in.

I had an experience, and I also put my spin on it (that God loves me, and that if he loves me, He must love everyone). And I admit that I have my ideas about what are the important things in spirituality, rather than religious rules that mankind thinks so important.

Yet, I see no need to re-write the Bible, nor write another "sacred" text, nor codify a new religion.

Maybe you would find more acceptance of your ideas in the Satanic "worshippers."

I think that I'll just have to admit defeat on this one. I really am having trouble understanding this subject.

Sorry!


As I said before, I don't know if God exists or not ~ he, or she, might.

He might interact with us. Maybe he interacts with different people in different ways. That could explain the many interpretations that we have. I don't know.

Maybe there is a human version of God ~ eg Jesus. Maybe there is, therefore, something like a trinity. Maybe this kind of thinking would allow for acceptance of both God and God-Father, I don't know.

What about God-Mother??? Is there a female element?

If this 'God Father' has only contacted one person, though, how are the rest of us supposed to find this new 'truth'?

Why don't all the priests, vicars, etc, know about God and God-Father?

The Trinity allows for God the Father, God the Son and God the Holy Spirit ~ all aspects of one God. And there is 'the Word' of course. Is this what we are discussing here, because I really am having comprehension troubles.

I don't know, PDM. Admittedly, I haven't been to his web site, but I doubt that I'd understand better if I did so.

If his view of God-Father (and if I have a glimmer of what he means) is correct, that is one mean and hateful dude. Here's hoping he's wrong.

When planning for children's sermons, one learns to give concrete examples. It has been said that if you can't encapsulate your truth in concrete, simple and understandable terms, perhaps there is no truth.