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#205557 - 08/09/07 12:46 PM Re: St Matthew Gospel-Please Explain the Contradiction [Re: LordsLady]
PDM Offline

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Originally Posted By: LordsLady
Right you are Carl. That is what I meant as well. I guess I still need to explain better....this makes at least the third attempt and I according to victors and my calculations, I have at least 17 more attempts.

I have a problem with what some people pray out loud because they may be divulging confidential information that has been given to them not to pass on but to pray. This is why when someone asks me to pray for them, I ususally do not relay the information in a large group out loud. I usually just state that God is aware of the situation, need, etc rather than go into details about what the situation is. I always remember when I first became a believer and people would pray for "sister so and so who is in an illicit affair" I would be shocked, you get my point (I hope).

Blessings,

Emilie


Yes, I'm with you and Carl on this one.

By 'being good and kind' and praying righteously for a poor sinner, what they are actually doing is showing that person up, spreading gossip and making out that they are superior ~ all in the name of being a good Christian.

I've seen and experienced that kind of Christian too ~ they have caused a lot of distress, supposedly in the name of Jesus. Yet they think that they are so good, and will be welcomed through those pearly gates with open arms!
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#205574 - 08/09/07 02:32 PM Re: St Matthew Gospel-Please Explain the Contradiction [Re: PDM]
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Hugs to you, PDM. I care.
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#205720 - 08/09/07 11:08 PM Re: St Matthew Gospel-Please Explain the Contradiction [Re: Carl]
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So do I PDM.

Blessings,

Emilie
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#205735 - 08/09/07 11:59 PM Re: St Matthew Gospel-Please Explain the Contradiction [Re: LordsLady]
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I'm not talking of my distress ~ though I have been irritated by similar behaviour ~ I am actually talking about serious distress caused to fundamentalist Christians I know ~ when the elders decided that anyone who didn't do exactly what the they said were treated terribly and caused a lot of pain & heartache.
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#205737 - 08/10/07 12:04 AM Re: St Matthew Gospel-Please Explain the Contradiction [Re: PDM]
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That is awful. I have known churches like that with people who behave very bizarre. I have been blessed to be in churches where we are not judged for what we wear or what we eat.

It's no wonder some people don't want to become Christians when they are treated as such.

Blessings,

Emilie
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#206400 - 08/11/07 09:19 PM Re: St Matthew Gospel-Please Explain the Contradiction [Re: LordsLady]
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I'm kind of surprised no one took the time to put these verses into context. If they did and I missed it, sorry for being redundant.

Mt. 5:16 is in the passage about being a light and salt unto the earth. Which means your attitude, who you are, the smile on your face and the light in your heart. So you can connect "your good deeds" with the previous verse saying "don't hide your light under a basket! Instead, put it on a stand and let it shine for all! (NLT)

And Mt 6:1 is simply a true statement. If you do good deeds for people, to be rewarded by people, your reward will come from people instead of God, simple enough.

It doesn't really contradict each other, they're both true statements. If you're a light in the darkness, people will praise God for you. If you're giving to the needy in such a way that your face is being blared on the television on the front page of the newspapers, which would be the equivilant of what was being done by the people in Jesus' time, then it's true that your reward has been paid in full by man. Which hey, isn't really a bad thing. Either way, you're rewarded I do suppose. It just depends who you'd rather have your reward from.
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#206430 - 08/11/07 10:03 PM Re: St Matthew Gospel-Please Explain the Contradiction [Re: Niki]
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I found those 'contradictory statements' on www.godisimaginary.com after viewing the video mentioned on the other thread:

Prayer - The Optical Illusion.
http://www.wineintro.com/forum/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Board=13&Number=205556


www.whydoesgodhateamputees
has been mentioned before and is a sister site to
www.godisimaginary.com

I'll try to find some more issues there that we can look at.
Perhaps others can find some, too?
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