LisaShea Forum Logo

all ads on this forum support animal charities
Forum Areas
Parakeets
General Parakeet Chat
Keet Stories and Photos
Parakeet Photo Gallery
Budgie Training
Health and Medical Issues
Parakeet Breeding
In Memory Of ...
Non-Budgie Pets and Animals
Non-Budgie Animal Photos
Off-Topic for Keet Owners
Games
Animal Rights
Bird / Animal Books

General Discussion
Books, TV, Movies
Da Vinci Code
Dreams
Japanese Culture
Life, Universe, Everything
Online Courses
Politics
Religious Research
Show Your Own Work
Work From Home

Budgie Photos
My violet female budgie
my cage
two blues
Support Charity
Support Our Friends
The Child Health Site
Page 2 of 20 < 1 2 3 4 ... 19 20 >
Topic Options
#208116 - 08/17/07 02:31 AM Re: What happened to Paul on the road to Damascus? [Re: PDM]
LordsLady Offline
Best Friend

Registered: 06/11/06
Posts: 1926
Loc: Florida
I get the feeling you want to discuss Paul!!!!!!!

According to scripture, Paul was a pharisee who persecuted followers of Jesus. Paul was a Jew of Roman citizenship.

The road to Damascus is very important to Christianity because it is the beginning of Paul's conversion and his subsequent evangelization of thousands. I believe IMO that his was a meeting with Jesus on that road. He went blind temporarily as a result of that meeting. Again, IMO he must have seen Jesus and truly come to believe in Him. Why else would he become the most ambitious evangelizer? Why would he change his life of power for one of constant pain and prison stays? Why would he travel the world to spread the gospel?

IMO his was a genuine encounter with the Lord.

Blessings,

Emilie
_________________________
To one with faith,no explanation is needed.To one without faith no explanation is possible. Aquinas

Top

Add Re: What happened to Paul on the road to Damascus? to Twitter Add Re: What happened to Paul on the road to Damascus? to Facebook Add Re: What happened to Paul on the road to Damascus? to MySpace Add Re: What happened to Paul on the road to Damascus? to Del.icio.us Digg Re: What happened to Paul on the road to Damascus? Add Re: What happened to Paul on the road to Damascus? to Yahoo My Web Add Re: What happened to Paul on the road to Damascus? to Google Bookmarks Add Re: What happened to Paul on the road to Damascus? to Stumbleupon Add Re: What happened to Paul on the road to Damascus? to Reddit
#208132 - 08/17/07 03:42 AM Re: What happened to Paul on the road to Damascus? [Re: LordsLady]
PaulLied Offline
Member

Registered: 08/12/07
Posts: 45
And apparently the very last face to face with said "Lord" in 2000 years or so.

Not one recorded event since then.

Paul was a Liar, evangelizing a new faith based on his Roman/Pagan ideas. Ridding the new faith of any relationship to the Jews.

Top

Add Re: What happened to Paul on the road to Damascus? to Twitter Add Re: What happened to Paul on the road to Damascus? to Facebook Add Re: What happened to Paul on the road to Damascus? to MySpace Add Re: What happened to Paul on the road to Damascus? to Del.icio.us Digg Re: What happened to Paul on the road to Damascus? Add Re: What happened to Paul on the road to Damascus? to Yahoo My Web Add Re: What happened to Paul on the road to Damascus? to Google Bookmarks Add Re: What happened to Paul on the road to Damascus? to Stumbleupon Add Re: What happened to Paul on the road to Damascus? to Reddit
#208177 - 08/17/07 07:46 AM Re: What happened to Paul on the road to Damascus? [Re: PDM]
Charlett Offline
Friend

Registered: 03/19/07
Posts: 239
Loc: NC
Originally Posted By: PDM
I think that this could be relevant:

We're they all on drugs??

Originally Posted By: Galacticus
In the middle ages - well into the 18th Century there was a parasite fungus which shrived on Rye.
And this was a strong halluzinogenic - very similar to LSD-25!

People eating Bread contaminated with this fungus (Claviceps purpurea - highly toxic Indolalcaloids Ergotamin, Ergotoxin und Ergometrin) had visions of "the Virgin Mary", flaming Crosses, Kathedrals and because the Bread was always shared - always a group of people had this expirience and nobody doubted it.

]


I remember watching a documentary on the Salem Witch Trials. and this fungus was believed to be a contributing factor to the behavior of the girls who started the witch outcries. It listed hallucinations as one of the side effects, there was also seizures, and it could cause someone to be temporarily paralyzed. I wish I could remember what the name of the documentary was. It was very interesting. It was probably on the History Channel.
_________________________
Nothing in life is to be feared. It is only to be understood.-- Marie Curie

Top

Add Re: What happened to Paul on the road to Damascus? to Twitter Add Re: What happened to Paul on the road to Damascus? to Facebook Add Re: What happened to Paul on the road to Damascus? to MySpace Add Re: What happened to Paul on the road to Damascus? to Del.icio.us Digg Re: What happened to Paul on the road to Damascus? Add Re: What happened to Paul on the road to Damascus? to Yahoo My Web Add Re: What happened to Paul on the road to Damascus? to Google Bookmarks Add Re: What happened to Paul on the road to Damascus? to Stumbleupon Add Re: What happened to Paul on the road to Damascus? to Reddit
#208181 - 08/17/07 08:44 AM Re: What happened to Paul on the road to Damascus? [Re: Charlett]
LordsLady Offline
Best Friend

Registered: 06/11/06
Posts: 1926
Loc: Florida
How do you know not one recorded event? What proof do you have?
Just because he has not appeared to you means nothing to me.
According to scripture, God uses the foolish things of this world to confuse the wise.

Blessings,

Emilie
_________________________
To one with faith,no explanation is needed.To one without faith no explanation is possible. Aquinas

Top

Add Re: What happened to Paul on the road to Damascus? to Twitter Add Re: What happened to Paul on the road to Damascus? to Facebook Add Re: What happened to Paul on the road to Damascus? to MySpace Add Re: What happened to Paul on the road to Damascus? to Del.icio.us Digg Re: What happened to Paul on the road to Damascus? Add Re: What happened to Paul on the road to Damascus? to Yahoo My Web Add Re: What happened to Paul on the road to Damascus? to Google Bookmarks Add Re: What happened to Paul on the road to Damascus? to Stumbleupon Add Re: What happened to Paul on the road to Damascus? to Reddit
#208212 - 08/17/07 02:43 PM Re: What happened to Paul on the road to Damascus? [Re: LordsLady]
PaulLied Offline
Member

Registered: 08/12/07
Posts: 45
Quote:
Just because he has not appeared to you means nothing to me.


did he appear to you?

If not, that makes 2.

Did he appear to Carl?

If not, that makes 3.

Let's keep counting. If Jesus has appeared to anyone here, please raise your hand.

Now call your friends and family and ask them if Jesus has appeared to any of them.

Then place an advert in the paper and ask anyone from anywhere if Jesus has appeared to them.

If all those people say jesus has not appeared, will it "still mean nothing to you?"

Top

Add Re: What happened to Paul on the road to Damascus? to Twitter Add Re: What happened to Paul on the road to Damascus? to Facebook Add Re: What happened to Paul on the road to Damascus? to MySpace Add Re: What happened to Paul on the road to Damascus? to Del.icio.us Digg Re: What happened to Paul on the road to Damascus? Add Re: What happened to Paul on the road to Damascus? to Yahoo My Web Add Re: What happened to Paul on the road to Damascus? to Google Bookmarks Add Re: What happened to Paul on the road to Damascus? to Stumbleupon Add Re: What happened to Paul on the road to Damascus? to Reddit
#208217 - 08/17/07 03:01 PM Re: What happened to Paul on the road to Damascus? [Re: PaulLied]
MrsJF Offline
Long Time Friend

Registered: 09/07/05
Posts: 756
Loc: Pennsylvania
Originally Posted By: PaulLied
Quote:
Just because he has not appeared to you means nothing to me.


did he appear to you?

If not, that makes 2.

Did he appear to Carl?

If not, that makes 3.

Let's keep counting. If Jesus has appeared to anyone here, please raise your hand.

Now call your friends and family and ask them if Jesus has appeared to any of them.

Then place an advert in the paper and ask anyone from anywhere if Jesus has appeared to them.

If all those people say jesus has not appeared, will it "still mean nothing to you?"


Hmmm. I guess it depends on what kind of eyes you're looking through. I see Jesus all around me. I see Him in the eyes of a loving child. I see Him in my neighbors helping one another. I see Him when you offer help to someone & they smile w/gratitude. I see Him in the love of my animals when I walk through the door & I know they've missed me.

And technically, Paul never "saw" Jesus. He heard Him speaking. What Paul "saw" was a flash of light & he was blinded by the light.
_________________________
MHA bell tolls to end misunderstanding & discrimination & rings for victory over mental illness.

Top

Add Re: What happened to Paul on the road to Damascus? to Twitter Add Re: What happened to Paul on the road to Damascus? to Facebook Add Re: What happened to Paul on the road to Damascus? to MySpace Add Re: What happened to Paul on the road to Damascus? to Del.icio.us Digg Re: What happened to Paul on the road to Damascus? Add Re: What happened to Paul on the road to Damascus? to Yahoo My Web Add Re: What happened to Paul on the road to Damascus? to Google Bookmarks Add Re: What happened to Paul on the road to Damascus? to Stumbleupon Add Re: What happened to Paul on the road to Damascus? to Reddit
#208219 - 08/17/07 03:14 PM Re: What happened to Paul on the road to Damascus? [Re: MrsJF]
PaulLied Offline
Member

Registered: 08/12/07
Posts: 45
See, it's all about what you want to see.

Why do people claim to see Jesus when nice things happen?

I see loving children. I help my Muslim and Hindu neighbors, I get smiled at eventhough I don't have a God.

So what's the difference?

Top

Add Re: What happened to Paul on the road to Damascus? to Twitter Add Re: What happened to Paul on the road to Damascus? to Facebook Add Re: What happened to Paul on the road to Damascus? to MySpace Add Re: What happened to Paul on the road to Damascus? to Del.icio.us Digg Re: What happened to Paul on the road to Damascus? Add Re: What happened to Paul on the road to Damascus? to Yahoo My Web Add Re: What happened to Paul on the road to Damascus? to Google Bookmarks Add Re: What happened to Paul on the road to Damascus? to Stumbleupon Add Re: What happened to Paul on the road to Damascus? to Reddit
#208223 - 08/17/07 03:24 PM Re: What happened to Paul on the road to Damascus? [Re: PaulLied]
MrsJF Offline
Long Time Friend

Registered: 09/07/05
Posts: 756
Loc: Pennsylvania
Originally Posted By: PaulLied
See, it's all about what you want to see.

Why do people claim to see Jesus when nice things happen?

I see loving children. I help my Muslim and Hindu neighbors, I get smiled at eventhough I don't have a God.

So what's the difference?


You just don't recognize it as such. What you claim for others is the same back to you. You see what you want to see & yet accuse those who do the same thing as being deluded or unintelligent.

And as far as seeing Him only in the "nice" things, I see Him in love. Good & bad happens to everyone. It doesn't matter if you believe, if you don't believe, if you're not sure. Everybody, I repeat everybody, sees what they want to see depending on their life experiences. If you're a half-full glass person, you're going to see the good that comes out of a bad situation. If you're a half-empty person, you're going to focus on the bad. I tend to focus on the good. I just happen to believe that we "need" the bad stuff in order for the good to shine forth brightly. When the bad stuff doesn't happen & it's all peachy keen, we tend to take the good stuff for granted.
_________________________
MHA bell tolls to end misunderstanding & discrimination & rings for victory over mental illness.

Top

Add Re: What happened to Paul on the road to Damascus? to Twitter Add Re: What happened to Paul on the road to Damascus? to Facebook Add Re: What happened to Paul on the road to Damascus? to MySpace Add Re: What happened to Paul on the road to Damascus? to Del.icio.us Digg Re: What happened to Paul on the road to Damascus? Add Re: What happened to Paul on the road to Damascus? to Yahoo My Web Add Re: What happened to Paul on the road to Damascus? to Google Bookmarks Add Re: What happened to Paul on the road to Damascus? to Stumbleupon Add Re: What happened to Paul on the road to Damascus? to Reddit
#208237 - 08/17/07 04:37 PM Re: What happened to Paul on the road to Damascus? [Re: MrsJF]
LordsLady Offline
Best Friend

Registered: 06/11/06
Posts: 1926
Loc: Florida
Sorry for you PaulLied that you don't see God. Again, your problem and IMO one you will have to deal with if there is an afterlife that includes heaven and the other place. But since you nor I can prove ANYTHING, I guess we will have to wait until we die. If there is a God as I believe there is and I die knowing Him, I will have lost nothing. If you die not knowing Him, you will have lost everything.

Blessings,

Emilie

_________________________
To one with faith,no explanation is needed.To one without faith no explanation is possible. Aquinas

Top

Add Re: What happened to Paul on the road to Damascus? to Twitter Add Re: What happened to Paul on the road to Damascus? to Facebook Add Re: What happened to Paul on the road to Damascus? to MySpace Add Re: What happened to Paul on the road to Damascus? to Del.icio.us Digg Re: What happened to Paul on the road to Damascus? Add Re: What happened to Paul on the road to Damascus? to Yahoo My Web Add Re: What happened to Paul on the road to Damascus? to Google Bookmarks Add Re: What happened to Paul on the road to Damascus? to Stumbleupon Add Re: What happened to Paul on the road to Damascus? to Reddit
#208240 - 08/17/07 05:13 PM Re: What happened to Paul on the road to Damascus? [Re: LordsLady]
PaulLied Offline
Member

Registered: 08/12/07
Posts: 45
Originally Posted By: MrsJF
Good & bad happens to everyone. It doesn't matter if you believe, if you don't believe, if you're not sure. Everybody, I repeat everybody, sees what they want to see depending on their life experiences. If you're a half-full glass person, you're going to see the good that comes out of a bad situation. If you're a half-empty person, you're going to focus on the bad. I tend to focus on the good.


I focus on the good too. Religion is not one of them.

And I agree, it doesn't matter if you believe, if you don't believe, if you're not sure.

So why do people get all offended when I say that I don't believe, and I see the same good they do? Why can't I say that I think Religion and God are manmade creations designed to make you feel better about something you can't understand?

Why can't I say (in my opinion) that I think the people who believe this, and expect everyone else on the planet to believe it (without any good reason), are flat out wrong and self-deluded (in my opinion).

God is a concept. That's all it is. Otherwise we wouldn't be bombing each other because your God is different from my God.

Take God out of the picture and leave Good, and the world is much better for it.

You see good, I see good. You like children, I like children. You help neighbors, I help neighbors. Why even bring God into it? OBviously people get offended when I say my God is better than your God. I make it easy - I don't have a God so no one needs to be offended by what I believe. I don't have to make up stories to justify what I believe.


Edited by PDM (08/19/07 01:09 AM)
Edit Reason: Quote clarified

Top

Add Re: What happened to Paul on the road to Damascus? to Twitter Add Re: What happened to Paul on the road to Damascus? to Facebook Add Re: What happened to Paul on the road to Damascus? to MySpace Add Re: What happened to Paul on the road to Damascus? to Del.icio.us Digg Re: What happened to Paul on the road to Damascus? Add Re: What happened to Paul on the road to Damascus? to Yahoo My Web Add Re: What happened to Paul on the road to Damascus? to Google Bookmarks Add Re: What happened to Paul on the road to Damascus? to Stumbleupon Add Re: What happened to Paul on the road to Damascus? to Reddit
Page 2 of 20 < 1 2 3 4 ... 19 20 >


Moderator:  jilly, Lisa Shea, PDM 

Want to reply? Register as a Forum Member - it's quick, free and fun!
Latest Posts
Spring Classes
by Lisa Shea
05/18/13 11:09 PM
Parakeets and Humidity
by illusive Fantasy
05/18/13 03:15 PM
Meditate
by Lisa Shea
05/17/13 09:29 PM
Pinterest Vision Boards
by PDM
05/15/13 11:29 AM
diese Stiefel und Schuhe, die sie variabel sind zu
by orenhy
05/14/13 09:12 PM
An Oakley company entered 1975 with the era of the
by orenhy
05/14/13 09:10 PM
Another famous celebrity who loves the Air Jordan
by orenhy
05/14/13 09:06 PM
kilometer uden at støde hver uncomfortableness
by ortehy
05/14/13 03:34 AM
They immediately began printing money at large and
by ortehy
05/14/13 03:33 AM
air jordan 4 green glow for sale in his most
by ortehy
05/14/13 03:32 AM
Forum Guidelines
This forum takes web safety issues very seriously. Please make sure you have read and understood our Forum Guidelines before posting.
Support Charity
Support Our Friends
The Animal Rescue Site