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#237131 - 12/20/07 04:36 AM Re: Beating depression [Re: ]
mbas400 Offline
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Registered: 04/21/06
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Helwa - there I've mentioned you - you really need to grow up. it's really sad and embarassing for you.

Tell you what - you just help the OP since you know everything about everything.

I didn't even notice it was your post. I saw "Beating Depression" and responded.

Grow up.

it's really sad.
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#237132 - 12/20/07 04:36 AM Re: Beating depression [Re: ]
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Although depression is a serious illness drugs probaly wouldnt be the first thing the doctor would recommend. In january I went to the doctor because I would always be upset and snap at my mom and friends.. he suggested I go to a counsellor. The cousellor said one way of getting your emotions out without taking it out on someone else was keeping a diary/notebook and just writing everything down insted of saying it..it really helped a lot smile. Hope your feeling better soon, please try to take care of yourself as best you can <3

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#237134 - 12/20/07 04:39 AM Re: Beating depression [Re: Buttons]
helwa
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you are downright amazing mbas

you clearly referred to me and insulted my typing AGAIN ... and now you deny it HAHAHA that is beyond funny and it shows you are the one who is immature ur not even man enough to stand by ur own words ... wow thats rather crazy

look ... i cant stand you ... im honest ... and if you mention me i will come to you ... dont mention me dont refer to me ... just stay away of me totally and ill do the same ...

i cant believe a grown man would be so small ....

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#237135 - 12/20/07 04:40 AM Re: Beating depression [Re: Buttons]
mbas400 Offline
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Originally Posted By: Buttons
Although depression is a serious illness drugs probaly wouldnt be the first thing the doctor would recommend. In january I went to the doctor because I would always be upset and snap at my mom and friends.. he suggested I go to a counsellor. The cousellor said one way of getting your emotions out without taking it out on someone else was keeping a diary/notebook and just writing everything down insted of saying it..it really helped a lot smile. Hope your feeling better soon, please try to take care of yourself as best you can <3


yes, this is true. I don't want to get into details here, but when our family was affected, the doctor did suggest exercise (lots of it) and talk therapy. he didn't suggest a notebook, but that would have been good, in retrospect.

But neither of those worked, so Zoloft was recommended and after about 8 weeks, we were back to "normal". another few weeks to wean off and we got through it. it's been about 8 years since that incident.
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#237137 - 12/20/07 04:41 AM Re: Beating depression [Re: ]
helwa
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and ive never said or acted like i know everything about ANYTHING ... so stop being such a drama queen ... like i said if you have advice offer it without referring to me in any way ... simple as that ... im sure andrea and everyone else would be happy to hear your advice ... but mentioning and making fun of me isnt mature.

i dont know everything ... but i am smart and i wont hide it to make you feel better about yourself.

my opinion: drugs arent the answer. you are free to disagree ... it doenst bother me ...

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#237138 - 12/20/07 04:41 AM Re: Beating depression [Re: ]
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Ok Andrea let me tell you a little bit about me and hopefully this will help you.
I have been married now for 40 years so hopefully a little bit of what I have learned over the years will help.
Well over the years we have had many different things happen in our lives job changes job losses moving ect there were quite a few of these things that happened that I was not overly fond of but give it some time. Things don't last forever (although sometimes they seem like they do).
My husband ended up having to go to 2nd shift at work which at first I was not to thrilled about but as time went on it really has not been to bad. You know the old saying when life gives you lemons make lemonade its sort of a corny saying but its true.
Right now your have your pets and us to help you get over the initial period of adjustment and this will probably not last forever. Be glad that there is just the two of you right now (no kids to deal with yet) because it will make it a little easier.
I know you said your job hours and his don't match right now is there anyway that you would be able to switch jobs so your hours would match?
I know you said your boyfriend quite school have you two talked about him possibly going back to school? What you need to do is sit down calmly and discuss your feelings with each other (don't scream or cry that will get neither of you anywhere).
Since he is working nights he has the opportunity to keep looking for a day job.
You really do need to eat and take care of yourself because if you let yourself go it just feeds into not feeling good.
As far as giving the bird antibotics I have given my bird marvel aid (its a liquid) you put it in their water dish in place of their water don't put water in their cage that way they will drink the marvel aid. You must change it frequently like I would change it in the morning and in the evening.
Its a good thing though that you are expressing yourself to someone instead of holding it all in.
And I really don't think you need pills you just need to give it a little time to adjust.
I'm kind of finding out I don't mind being home at night without him as I get to watch what I want on the tv. See there is one plus (hope that made you laugh a little).
Well anyway a little advise from grandma.
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#237143 - 12/20/07 04:50 AM Re: Beating depression [Re: pretty bird]
helwa
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i agree pretty bird smile ... it was very hard when my husband went to nights and i hated it i was out of my mind .. i was working days and so was he .. he would work his normal job in the day time get off work and go home and sleep and then go to work nights ... so it was just awful and he was cranky and i was just miserable ... but it worked out ...we needed to do it at the time we had no choice ... so i just put on my big girl pants and dealt with it so to say ... i lost alot of sleep went to work dead tired ...

but after the first week or so i had my own routine ... i had time to myself to do what i wanted ... i started doing more of the volunteer work i had stopped doing when i got married due to wifely stuff taking over my time ... i started taking classes online for religious stuff and so on ...
and he had 2 days off a week and we had our time then ...

he did that for about 7 months ... then he moved to another city with the day job he got a major promotion and of course he took it ... was major and a blessing to us but we couldn afford to move there rigt away so he stayed there with a friend and saved some money to move so i lived alone in our house for almost 4 months and I HATED IT ... but after the first couple weeks i adjusted and id drive up on weekends ... it truly doesnt last forever smile

my grandma used to always tell me ... sugar this too shall pass smile and its true ... everything in life does pass smile

find things to keep you occupied on positive things ... whatever you do dont isolate him and push him away in ur anger cuz that will only make matters worse smile

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#237150 - 12/20/07 05:22 AM Re: Beating depression [Re: ]
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Registered: 08/31/07
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I agree with a few things that have been said.

I live in New York almost 200 miles away from my family and I have very few friends that I rarely see. I'm up here to work for at least 2 more years and at times it can get pretty lonely and depressing.

What I do is just keep moving. I always have something to do. I work a full time job, take grad classes, another job on saturdays, playing with the keets when I'm home and I spend time volunteering to tutor when I can fit it in. All the mayhem really leaves little time to get down.

Also, I do keep a journal. There are some things that you just wish you could say but there's no one to listen. There are so many ideas and thoughts that I've had in my head for so long that I wish I could tell someone. By writing it, you're kind of listening to yourself and it makes you feel a lot better. Plus it's pretty cool to look back on stuff you've written and seen what you really can survive smile

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#237153 - 12/20/07 05:39 AM Re: Beating depression [Re: DavidPM]
helwa
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yea keeping a journal really does help ... ive kept one pretty much all my life and its nice to look back on stuff i thought id never get through and see how far ive come since then. plus as you said it just gets it out ... which does help more than we realize at the time.

i hate being here in florida i dont know hardly anyone here all my friends live out of state or over seas .. im totally out of my element here and its wierd ive never really faced that before so it is rough ... but like you i try to keep busy ...


plus it being the holidays ... its just a depressing sad time ... ironically its supposed to be the happy time of the year but it just isnt at all ... for many people ...

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#237157 - 12/20/07 06:56 AM Re: Beating depression [Re: mbas400]
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Registered: 08/26/07
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It is good that this episode was resolved for your family. Sadly I have a close family member who has been on Zoloft for two years and before that many other medications which when discontinued can cause seisure. I myself was clinically depressed in my early twenties and was prescribed milder medications of the day. I have not had reoccuring episodes of what I call black depression and whenever I feel any kind of depression occuring I shake it off and say no way, not again. I get going and I don't look back. It has worked for me. Because I have seen the dependence that my close relative has to the medications I truly believe it is wise to use it as a temporary treatment as you did. All too often it is the first and only thing Doctors do. It becomes a crutch. Evaluation by a Doctor is good to do if other things don't help. I believe most people are aware of when that is needed. Not all anxiety is depression though wouldn't you agree?


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