http://www.usip.org/pubs/specialreports/sr111.html
http://www.usip.org/aboutus/index.html


http://www.motherjones.com/news/featurex/2007/03/iraq_effect_1.html


http://www.alternet.org/waroniraq/48620/


http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A7460-2005Jan13.html
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http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/...ace-438190.html
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iraq_War

Have a look at the quotes I found.

I do have a hate towards president Bush. I hope Kucinich gets him impeached. Listen, you think he went into Iraq for terrorists? I'm sorry, but thats not a very educated view. The Plan For A New American Century (PNAC) gaves plans to Bush that said the key to America's success was to put up permanent bases all around the world. Also to get cheaper oil in Middle Eastern countries. So, when 9/11 happened, Bush had his chance. We were scared, and we wanted revenge. So he told us that Iraqis were responsible and that they had weapons of mass destruction. The UN told him very clearly that there were no weapons of mass destruction in Iraq. Bush went in anyway. According to the UN, thats an unjustified crime.

So now they are able to kill whomever they want, as long as the soldiers put a hovel over his body. If anyone is carrying a shovel, they are to shoot them. There are free-fire villages where anyone seen can be shot. Women, children.

Our economy is in turmoil, the world views us as a bully, only the richest 1% of the country is being cared for. The people look ready to revolt. BUSH SHOULD BE IN JAIL.

[quote=new2bird]By the way this is a list of of known terror plots thwarted by the U.S. government since Sept. 11, 2001. 19 that were published: This are just a few. • May 2003, Iyman Faris: American citizen charged with trying to topple the Brooklyn Bridge. http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,335500,00.html [/quote] I can't comment on all the foiled terror plots that you cite (due to time constraints so I would appreciate it if others can) but alot of these are disputed. I've provided my own research and commentary on the ones below. In my opinion, many of the Bush "successes", e.g., the Iyman Faris and the Miami 7, were never serious threats. Faris was an idiot and mentally ill, who plotted to blow torch the Brooklyn Bridge cabling system down. You've got to have your head examined to believe you can do that. The Miami 7 was a case of entrapment and stupid young men saying stupid macho things, especially when they are encouraged and are promised compensation by government informants. Bottom line: These are not successes that make me think thank God Bush is in the White House. They only raise my skepticism. I live in ground zero (NYC) as far as the terrorists are concerned and yet Bush does not make me feel safer. Perhaps, Bush makes those in Billings, Montana or Gary, Indiana feel safer, but Islamic terrorists have no interest there, they have it where I live. Yet, Bush gives me no comfort. Anyway, here are my thoughts on some of the citations that you gave. I am open to other interpretations, btw, as long as they are researched and convincing: • June 2003, Virginia Jihad Network: Eleven men from Alexandria, Va., trained for jihad against American soldiers, convicted of violating the Neutrality Act, conspiracy—This is way overblown. These guys were (possibly) training to fight in Kashmir (by playing paint ball!), an area of conflict caused by that lousy partitioning job the Brits made of the Indian subcontinent, which is a major source of Pakistani hatred towards the British. http://www.wjla.com/news/stories/0507/424929.html http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A2730-2003Sep25.html • August 2004, Dhiren Barot: Indian-born leader of terror cell plotted bombings on financial centers—He was arrested in the UK. It’s not even clear how big of role the US played in this. • August 2004, James Elshafay and Shahawar Matin Siraj: Sought to plant bomb at New York's Penn Station during the Republican National Convention.—This one has the smell of entrapment, much like the June 2006 incident. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shahawar_Matin_Siraj • December 2005, Michael Reynolds: Plotted to blow up refinery in Wyoming, convicted of providing material support to terrorists.—Crazy, loner type; his link to the terrorists: Shannen Rossmiller. There is also a whiff of entrapment here too. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shannen_Rossmiller • June 2006, Narseal Batiste, Patrick Abraham, Stanley Grant Phanor, Naudimar Herrera, Burson Augustin, Lyglenson Lemorin, and Rotschild Augstine: Accused of plotting to blow up the Sears Tower.—This one really smells like entrapment. This one is about as ridiculous a plot as Iyman Faris’. http://articles.latimes.com/2006/jun/24/nation/na-terror24 http://i.abcnews.com/Blotter/DOJ/story?id=4665658&page=1 • June 2007, JFK Plot: Four men accused of plotting to blow up fuel arteries underneath JFK Airport in New York. http://www.commondreams.org/archive/2007/06/05/1662/ So, can someone research these? • August 2005, Kevin James, Levar Haley Washington, Gregory Vernon Patterson and Hammad Riaz Samana: Los Angeles homegrown terrorists who plotted to attack National Guard, LAX, two synagogues and Israeli consulate. • July 2006, Assem Hammoud: Accused of plotting to hit New York City train tunnels. • August 2006, Liquid Explosives Plot: Thwarted plot to explode ten airliners over the United States. • May 2007, Fort Dix Plot: Six men accused of plotting to attack Fort Dix Army base in New Jersey.

I have noticed, from comments on earlier threads, that a fair number of Americans were under the impression that Iraq was invaded because Iraq was behind "9/11".

This is dangerous in my opinion.

That so many people believed this incorrect information makes me wonder why.

Why did / do so many Americans believe that Saddam was behind '9/11' and that Iraq was invaded as a response to the USA being attacked by those terrorists?
Is it something to do with Bush?

I think he spent way too much time focusing on his daddy's war and not enough time on his own people. *coughs* Hurricane Katrina *coughs again*.

Dubya had some of his daddy's unfinished business with Saddam. Plain and simple. There were no WMDs and no thought he had anything to do with 9/11.

We could not respond to our own problems because all of our resources were fighting Dubya's little private war for his real political constituants, the oil barrons.

No, Sadam was not behind 9/11, and Bush never said he was. What Bush said and he was right then, is that after those 9/11 attacks, we had to make sure we do not get attack again, especially with WMD of any kind. We knew he had chemical weapons because he attacked the Kurds with it. We knew he had biological weapons because he used them in his war with Iran. We knew that was in touch with Muslim terrorist because there was documentation of meetings and because of several famous Palestinian Arabs terrorist that were staying in Iraq under his protection. (See Abu Nidal). We knew that Israel destroyed his nuclear in the 80 and we knew he was trying to develop them again. So the question was are we taking the chance that the next attack on US will not be just airplanes flying into building like the Sears tower, but will actually be a dirty bomb or a biological bomb in NY or LA. So you tell me that if you are the president you have all these intelligence reports not just from the US that say he probably have them, and he will probably be able to give them or sell them to el queda. So what do you do to protect the American people? It very easy to [u]look now[/u] at what happened and what didn’t or almost happened and dismiss it as lunatic delusional people trying to attack us. Don’t forget how long it took them to plan 9/11- since the first twin tower attack. By the way the attack on Iraq created at least few good things: At first it brought all the terrorists to Iraq, so they are busy fighting our soldiers there instead of attacking here. Also, there was a large wave of terror attacks from Muslims on Muslims, which cause a lot of Muslim to stop justifying Terror attack. Third do you think for a second that Libya would have given up on their nuclear ambition if it weren’t for what was done to Sadam? 4th, I believe that some kind of democracy can happen in Iraq, maybe not the same kind we have but probably something that could work like in Turkey. I ask you again when was the last attack in Europe, or the US ? the numbers are falling Maybe it means that El Queda are busy running and hiding and fighting in Iraq? I am too tired now to respond to all your quote PDM about Iraq, I promise an answer in a few days.

I need to find the article I read where Bush was given an interview and he said that he knew now that the intelligence he was given on Iraq was wrong. I think the fact that he's saying it his last year in office means he knows he can get away with it without too much consequence. It's like knowing you're going to quit your job and you tell your boss a few choice words before walking out of the building. Let me see if I can find it. *edited to say* He also quit golf because he's a big, sensitive man. [quote]Bush states he attacked based on “flawed” intelligence, and a “wrong conclusion.” May 14th 2008, by Steven Bates Bush states he attacked based on “flawed” intelligence, and a “wrong conclusion.” One can only hope this is not the headline five years following a U.S. attack on Venezuela. George Bush stated on 5-13-2008 that the intelligence that he used to justify his attack on the sovereign nation of Iraq was “flawed” and that the conclusion drawn from that ‘intelligence’ was “wrong.” There were no weapons of mass destruction in Iraq. Hundreds of thousands of people have been killed because of that ‘intelligence’. The world has been thrown into turmoil because of that ‘intelligence’. We need to be clear that ‘intelligence’ that is “flawed” and that comes to a “wrong conclusion” is not intelligence. Unfortunately, we are on the precipice of yet another such case of unintelligent ‘intelligence’ coming to the “wrong conclusion,” and perhaps another case where the military might at the disposal of such ‘intelligence’ is unleashed, this time against innocent people in Venezuela. [/quote] Here's the link to that report http://www.venezuelanalysis.com/letter/3441

Here are some other links

http://www.nysun.com/national/bush-upset-with-flawed-intelligence/76370/

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/americas/7400213.stm

I love this statment

http://www.usatoday.com/news/washington/2008-05-13-bush-comments-attacks_N.htm

So in other words, they came up with the wrong conclusion, I really did know about it and we ALL decided to lie to the world. But now, I think I'll just place the blame on them because I'm not a big enough man to admit that I was wrong.