LisaShea Forum Logo

all ads on this forum support animal charities
Forum Areas
Parakeets
General Parakeet Chat
Keet Stories and Photos
Parakeet Photo Gallery
Budgie Training
Health and Medical Issues
Parakeet Breeding
In Memory Of ...
Non-Budgie Pets and Animals
Non-Budgie Animal Photos
Off-Topic for Keet Owners
Games
Animal Rights
Bird / Animal Books

General Discussion
Books, TV, Movies
Da Vinci Code
Dreams
Japanese Culture
Life, Universe, Everything
Online Courses
Politics
Religious Research
Show Your Own Work
Work From Home

Budgie Photos
My violet female budgie
my cage
two blues
Support Charity
Support Our Friends
The Child Health Site
Page 10 of 14 < 1 2 ... 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 >
Topic Options
#382619 - 09/03/09 11:08 PM Re: Islam is of the Devil [Re: ]
*helwa*
Unregistered


shall i post pics of young palestinian and iraqi kids that have died and been tortured at the hands of good christian soldiers ???


come on man ...

Top

Add Re: Islam is of the Devil to Twitter Add Re: Islam is of the Devil to Facebook Add Re: Islam is of the Devil to MySpace Add Re: Islam is of the Devil to Del.icio.us Digg Re: Islam is of the Devil Add Re: Islam is of the Devil to Yahoo My Web Add Re: Islam is of the Devil to Google Bookmarks Add Re: Islam is of the Devil to Stumbleupon Add Re: Islam is of the Devil to Reddit
#382622 - 09/03/09 11:10 PM Re: Islam is of the Devil [Re: Luvanimalsdearly]
IronFront Offline
Soulmate

Registered: 09/03/06
Posts: 2954
Originally Posted By: Luvanimalsdearly

Its a free country I don't mind if someone wears a shirt that bashes my beliefs as long as I can do the same. Everyone is entitiled to their opinion no matter how offesive it is.
This paragraph I like.

The links you provided were incredibly biased. You don't think I can find Christians who tortured and killed muslims?

Top

Add Re: Islam is of the Devil to Twitter Add Re: Islam is of the Devil to Facebook Add Re: Islam is of the Devil to MySpace Add Re: Islam is of the Devil to Del.icio.us Digg Re: Islam is of the Devil Add Re: Islam is of the Devil to Yahoo My Web Add Re: Islam is of the Devil to Google Bookmarks Add Re: Islam is of the Devil to Stumbleupon Add Re: Islam is of the Devil to Reddit
#382623 - 09/03/09 11:15 PM Re: Islam is of the Devil [Re: IronFront]
*helwa*
Unregistered


so if a child wore a shirt to elementary or jumior high school that said i hate ni*ers or kill all jews or hitler is my hero or jews are dogs aor chirstians suck or jesus is stupid or christians kill muslims

you would be ok with that ??? you would be ok with your child being exposed to such hatred in a piblic school where they have a dress code ??

would you allow YOUR kid to wear such a hateful message ?

Top

Add Re: Islam is of the Devil to Twitter Add Re: Islam is of the Devil to Facebook Add Re: Islam is of the Devil to MySpace Add Re: Islam is of the Devil to Del.icio.us Digg Re: Islam is of the Devil Add Re: Islam is of the Devil to Yahoo My Web Add Re: Islam is of the Devil to Google Bookmarks Add Re: Islam is of the Devil to Stumbleupon Add Re: Islam is of the Devil to Reddit
#382629 - 09/03/09 11:46 PM Re: Islam is of the Devil [Re: ]
IronFront Offline
Soulmate

Registered: 09/03/06
Posts: 2954
Originally Posted By: *helwa*
so if a child wore a shirt to elementary or jumior high school that said i hate ni*ers or kill all jews or hitler is my hero or jews are dogs aor chirstians suck or jesus is stupid or christians kill muslims

you would be ok with that ??? you would be ok with your child being exposed to such hatred in a piblic school where they have a dress code ??

would you allow YOUR kid to wear such a hateful message ?
No I wouldn't be ok with it! I'd argue with him and if that didn't work I'd just laugh at his stupid opinions. Racists aren't worth my time. I just don't think that the government should get involved.

I'd be ok with it, although I might be concerned with their safety. This girl was not going to harm anyone, obviously. She was just brainwashed.

Would I allow my kid to wear such a hateful message? Hm, it depends on how old they are. if they were a high schooler or a late middle schooler I might, but I'd argue against them, don't get me wrong. But I think that in high school they can form their own intelligent opinions. PS - Have you seen the movie American History X? Relevant, and VERY good! I had some problems with the acting at some points (even though that actor was nominated for an emmy for that film), but overall it was great!

Top

Add Re: Islam is of the Devil to Twitter Add Re: Islam is of the Devil to Facebook Add Re: Islam is of the Devil to MySpace Add Re: Islam is of the Devil to Del.icio.us Digg Re: Islam is of the Devil Add Re: Islam is of the Devil to Yahoo My Web Add Re: Islam is of the Devil to Google Bookmarks Add Re: Islam is of the Devil to Stumbleupon Add Re: Islam is of the Devil to Reddit
#382632 - 09/04/09 12:11 AM Re: Islam is of the Devil [Re: IronFront]
*helwa*
Unregistered


she wasnt hurting anyone ???

Top

Add Re: Islam is of the Devil to Twitter Add Re: Islam is of the Devil to Facebook Add Re: Islam is of the Devil to MySpace Add Re: Islam is of the Devil to Del.icio.us Digg Re: Islam is of the Devil Add Re: Islam is of the Devil to Yahoo My Web Add Re: Islam is of the Devil to Google Bookmarks Add Re: Islam is of the Devil to Stumbleupon Add Re: Islam is of the Devil to Reddit
#382634 - 09/04/09 12:18 AM Re: Islam is of the Devil [Re: ]
IronFront Offline
Soulmate

Registered: 09/03/06
Posts: 2954
Originally Posted By: *helwa*
she wasnt hurting anyone ???
Physically, no.

Top

Add Re: Islam is of the Devil to Twitter Add Re: Islam is of the Devil to Facebook Add Re: Islam is of the Devil to MySpace Add Re: Islam is of the Devil to Del.icio.us Digg Re: Islam is of the Devil Add Re: Islam is of the Devil to Yahoo My Web Add Re: Islam is of the Devil to Google Bookmarks Add Re: Islam is of the Devil to Stumbleupon Add Re: Islam is of the Devil to Reddit
#382934 - 09/05/09 09:01 AM Re: Islam is of the Devil [Re: IronFront]
janimal Offline
Tin Star Soulmate

Registered: 12/16/05
Posts: 3307
Loc: bude , cornwall
isn't it funny - a girl of 10 wears an anti muslim t-shirt and there is actually a discussion about the rights and wrongs of it? she obviously wasn't uttering her own opinion, but that of her ignorant, contemptible parents.

funny contrast - i like to wear t-shirts which push buttons. of my own free will i must add. one of my favourites is an american flag with the stars re-arranged into a swastika. the fact that i use a clockwise swastika is of course lost on most people. for that print i've been hassled by the police, lectured by self righteous americans and told i deserve to die on the front line in afghanistan. which, if you think anything like i do is bloody hilarious.

as far as i can see its a perfectly reasonable commentary on americas foreign policy of the past few decades. a few people get the joke, but disapproval is fairly universal. i wonder if it had been as universal if i was having a poke at the taliban. probably not.

the trouble is people in the west are brainwashed by the news to such an extent that in simple terms its ok to hate muslims but you have to support 'our boys' fighting the war on terror. thankfully some of us can see through the facade the west winges about a few dozen casualties while the middle east is burying hundreds of thousands.

i was stopped in the street the other day by someon collecting for war heros. when i asked who the heros were, i was told the were vets from iraq and afghanistan. the guy did not appreciate it when i asked if i could give money to the children of iraq, or the families of fallen taliban. ultimately its ok for us to blindly hate muslims but its not ok to point out that opur soldier are not heros, they're a bunch of murderers.


Edited by janimal (09/05/09 09:03 AM)
_________________________
It's All got to go!!!

BudeStrings Music Tuition

Top

Add Re: Islam is of the Devil to Twitter Add Re: Islam is of the Devil to Facebook Add Re: Islam is of the Devil to MySpace Add Re: Islam is of the Devil to Del.icio.us Digg Re: Islam is of the Devil Add Re: Islam is of the Devil to Yahoo My Web Add Re: Islam is of the Devil to Google Bookmarks Add Re: Islam is of the Devil to Stumbleupon Add Re: Islam is of the Devil to Reddit
#382994 - 09/05/09 01:33 PM Re: Islam is of the Devil [Re: janimal]
LordsLady Offline
Best Friend

Registered: 06/11/06
Posts: 1926
Loc: Florida
To call our military murderers is not only wrong but ignorant. They fight that we may not have to. They fight to protect our rights and our freedom. They are under orders just as I suppose you are under someones authority.

I agree that we should not be in Iraq and I certainly take no pleasure in the deaths of innocents, but that has been the norm for every war, not just Iraq. I did not agree with Vietnam either but my husband fought in that war and I can assure you he took no pleasure in deaths. Infact, he is very happy that he never had to engage in one-on-one combat with anyone personally causing a death. However, he was in the infantry and I am sure his mortars may have caused the deaths of enemy soldiers. My father was a soldier as well in WWII. Have you ever been in the military janimal? If yes, I commend you. If no, then you have no right to speak ill against those who protect us. They are heroes...whether we or even they like what they are doing is irrelevant. Every country has an army to protect them. Are all military persons murderers or just the Americans? What about the radicals who invaded the World Trade Center....are they heroes in your eyes? What do you call them? They had no allegiance to any particular country....just a very hateful, distorted view of the world. But if you haven't served, then you know very little of what it means to put your life on the line for someone else.

Blessings,

Emilie
_________________________
To one with faith,no explanation is needed.To one without faith no explanation is possible. Aquinas

Top

Add Re: Islam is of the Devil to Twitter Add Re: Islam is of the Devil to Facebook Add Re: Islam is of the Devil to MySpace Add Re: Islam is of the Devil to Del.icio.us Digg Re: Islam is of the Devil Add Re: Islam is of the Devil to Yahoo My Web Add Re: Islam is of the Devil to Google Bookmarks Add Re: Islam is of the Devil to Stumbleupon Add Re: Islam is of the Devil to Reddit
#382995 - 09/05/09 01:34 PM Re: Islam is of the Devil [Re: janimal]
Coco's Mama Offline
Platinum Star Soulmate

Registered: 11/18/06
Posts: 7842
Loc: Ontario, Canada
I think that is the difference here, if you where that T-shirt you are well aware of what you may be inviting, as an adult, it is provocative, whether or not it gets to people's minds to be thought provoking is questionable. But you know what you are wearing and chose it.

I don't think these girls went out and ordered these T-shirts of their own volition, the only question it provokes, is what is wrong with their parents?

It is sad to use your child as a billboard for hate.
_________________________

Top

Add Re: Islam is of the Devil to Twitter Add Re: Islam is of the Devil to Facebook Add Re: Islam is of the Devil to MySpace Add Re: Islam is of the Devil to Del.icio.us Digg Re: Islam is of the Devil Add Re: Islam is of the Devil to Yahoo My Web Add Re: Islam is of the Devil to Google Bookmarks Add Re: Islam is of the Devil to Stumbleupon Add Re: Islam is of the Devil to Reddit
#383001 - 09/05/09 02:04 PM Re: Islam is of the Devil [Re: Coco's Mama]
**mattie** Offline
Long Time Friend

Registered: 05/21/09
Posts: 764
Loc: White Plains, NY
Originally Posted By: Coco
It is sad to use your child as a billboard for hate.



Ditto.

Originally Posted By: Coco's Mama
I think that is the difference here, if you where that T-shirt you are well aware of what you may be inviting, as an adult, it is provocative, whether or not it gets to people's minds to be thought provoking is questionable. But you know what you are wearing and chose it.


Well said!

Top

Add Re: Islam is of the Devil to Twitter Add Re: Islam is of the Devil to Facebook Add Re: Islam is of the Devil to MySpace Add Re: Islam is of the Devil to Del.icio.us Digg Re: Islam is of the Devil Add Re: Islam is of the Devil to Yahoo My Web Add Re: Islam is of the Devil to Google Bookmarks Add Re: Islam is of the Devil to Stumbleupon Add Re: Islam is of the Devil to Reddit
Page 10 of 14 < 1 2 ... 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 >


Moderator:  jilly, Lisa Shea, PDM 

Want to reply? Register as a Forum Member - it's quick, free and fun!
Latest Posts
Meditate
by Lisa Shea
09:14 PM
Budgie still scared
by Penny feathers
08:24 PM
New here.. lots of questions
by Bannetsmith
12:40 AM
being a pest
by Bannetsmith
12:37 AM
Pest Control
by Bannetsmith
12:32 AM
Spider Bites (Update)
by Bannetsmith
12:30 AM
The pest control
by Bannetsmith
12:23 AM
Organic herbs
by illusive Fantasy
10:19 PM
New Stylish Spy camera with Sunglass
by Fehad Hasan
06/16/13 09:54 AM
newbie here >>>!!!
by tessboss
06/12/13 09:48 AM
Forum Guidelines
This forum takes web safety issues very seriously. Please make sure you have read and understood our Forum Guidelines before posting.
Support Charity
Support Our Friends
The Animal Rescue Site