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#410688 - 03/01/11 12:54 AM Re: Making progress...yah! [Re: Kimberly1985]
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Hey ya'll! Sorry to spoil the fun...but I have a question again. LOL Cheeko has been doing pretty good with his flights. He of course is very persistent with his tries. But I've noticed when he flies up and then comes back down (this is because his wings are clipped) he makes this sound. What I would think a parakeets "grunt" would sound like. I was wondering if this is normal?
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#410689 - 03/01/11 12:57 AM Re: Making progress...yah! [Re: Kimberly1985]
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Hey ya'll! Sorry to spoil the fun...but I have a question again. LOL Cheeko has been doing pretty good with his flights. He of course is very persistent with his tries. But I've noticed when he flies up and then comes back down (this is because his wings are clipped) he makes this sound. What I would think a parakeets "grunt" would sound like. I was wondering if this is normal?
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#410690 - 03/01/11 01:01 AM Re: Making progress...yah! [Re: Kimberly1985]
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I'm not sure what you mean by when he flies up and then comes back down.
Do you mean when he LANDS he makes the grunt like sound?
Like it's knocking the wind out of him because he is landing too hard maybe?
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#410692 - 03/01/11 01:28 AM Re: Making progress...yah! [Re: Kimberly1985]
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yes kksuns...when he lands. Yea, like it's knocking the wind out of him.
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#410696 - 03/01/11 02:25 AM Re: Making progress...yah! [Re: Kimberly1985]
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hmmm IDK what to tell ya Kimberly.
Is he flying that high from ground level, and then can't glide enough to break his fall? Or is he starting off his flight from something high like the top of his cage or something like that?

If he is taking flight from too high of a spot..then I would be sure to lower his cage or put him on something lower to the ground or even on the floor before letting him out. Otherwise he could injure himself. Just be sure to keep a very close eye on him so he doesn't get stepped on.

If he's getting that much height on his own, then I'm baffled. It seems if he's strong enough to get that much height on his own he should be able to break his fall.
He could just need more practice landing.They ARE clumsy at first. I would try to keep him low until his flights have grown back.
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#410698 - 03/01/11 02:44 AM Re: Making progress...yah! [Re: Kimberly1985]
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He will be sitting on the floor which I think he hates, I'm sure all birds do. He'll fly straight up, he gets about 4 feet off the ground and down he goes. He does land on his feet but maybe the impact is a little much. It doesn't happen every time he does it though. It's almost if he's doing it for exercise. Then if I put him on a perch or something perch like. He stays put. Doesn't move at all. Also, I've never been able to get him to come out of his cage on his own. (it's about 3 ft off the ground) I always have to get him to perch on my finger to take him out. I leave the door open pretty much all day. (for about a week so far) He still doesn't come out on his own. He does get on my finger if I go to him when he's out though. He'll go from my finger to my shoulder to my head. Sometimes he does this so he can get closer to a perch like object (the wheel barrel) I'm sure this is normal. Maybe if I put the cage lower like you said, maybe he'll come out on his own. Right now, I don't think he likes his outside of cage time. But maybe he will pretty soon.


Edited by Kimberly1985 (03/01/11 02:47 AM)
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#410699 - 03/01/11 02:53 AM Re: Making progress...yah! [Re: Kimberly1985]
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maybe he isnt coming out on his own becuz he hasnt the confidence and knows he isnt ready to fly...so let him decide...it has to be at HIS pace...and dont lower the cage if there is any other dangers to doing that like other animals or even a child...keep it where it is all good things in time...id rather wait till feathers come back in then have internal injuries and thats what this could be heading for like when you hear a football player or hockey player grunt after a hard hit...its not the best thing in the world and internal brusing at the very least can happen...so just close up the cage for another two weeks ...then go back to opening it ...but dont take him out yet...once feathers grow back you both will have a lifetime to play so please dont rush it now and maybe be doing some harm ...this could also ruin his confidence for later if he keeps doing this...and then when he can...he wont want to fly cuz he will keep associating it with pain and discomfort...it should be FUN.
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#410701 - 03/01/11 03:08 AM Re: Making progress...yah! [Re: Kimberly1985]
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He is able to glide though. He does this when he wants to go home, or when he wants to fly to something else. He lands fine when he's doing this. It's just when he is in the middle of the floor with nothing around to fly on, he flies straight up and comes right back down occasionally "grunting". Will the two weeks give him time to gain confidence? I just wasn't really sure why two weeks. I thought maybe until his flight wings grew back, then he could learn to really fly. Don't they take several months to grow out....I'd hate to have him in his cage all that time with no freedom. I've just been following Lisa's training instructions so I thought what I was doing was the right way. But I def. don't want him to have internal bruising or bleeding.


Edited by Kimberly1985 (03/01/11 03:33 AM)
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#410703 - 03/01/11 03:41 AM Re: Making progress...yah! [Re: Kimberly1985]
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Hi Kimberly, my Chippy came to me with his wings clipped too. I'm not sure how old Cheeko is, but Chippy was about 5 months old before he molted and finally grew his wing feathers in. Since a bird is hard wired for flight, the inability to fly is confusing and scary and just wrong. He doesn't understand why he can't fly since he is obviously old enough. Well we know why, but he doesn't so now he's a bit frightened. Chippy would occasionally fall/flutter to the floor and he'd find the lowest perch available and just sit there quietly till I would rescue him. He did not like this handicap at all. I set him up on the table with lots of gym like toys to play with and he kept pretty close to his cage, his safety net. When he finally was able to fly, it took him a little time to trust himself, but in no time at all he was flying free and happy and secure.
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#410704 - 03/01/11 04:50 AM Re: Making progress...yah! [Re: Kimberly1985]
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i still urge you to keep him in for two weeks just to be on the safe side and it will be time well spent if there is any brusing to heal...it will yes also help his mind to adjust...after wards where you observed its when he is on the floor he has difficulty sit down on the floor with him...let him crawl or fly to you...keep outings brief a little is good if the experience is also good...its important during this time to keep his excursions brief and positive so when his flights come in it will come natural to him...remember...you know whats best he doesnt ..he is confused...if things go well during a brief outing this will help to this end...

these are all reason i am so against wing clipping...the list is very long why im against it this is only scratching the surface of that...

but this is a time for tough love kimberly to protect him...it will be soon enough as mentioned when he gets his flights back as i cant answer as to when that is i dont know how old he is..
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