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#419419 - 10/10/11 01:31 PM Re: My Daughter and Her Journey [Re: mbas400]
Mongrel Offline
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The one god is a jealous child who gives only enough information to man to cause feuding and despair like PDM said "foisting their beliefs and prejudices onto others".

Sometime in the fifteen hundreds my mother's family was forced out of Ireland and into exile they settled into the protected lands of Estonia and then in the 1880's they moved from their location into the "New World" where "All Religions are Free" and "Everyone was Welcome" but when they came to Ellis Island they had to lie and say they were Christian because there was no place on the form for "Other" or "Pagan" or "Druid" . . . . . then and only then would they let my family pass. My Great, Great, Great Grandfather Seamus bought a one hundred and twenty acre piece of land in what is now Drakesboro, Ky and the entire family travelled, mostly on foot, through the Cumberland Gap to get there - to "The Land Of The Free". There still live many of them. Doctors, Lawyers, Coal Miners, Mechanics, Scientists, Etc and still to this day they live in fear that someone will find out our beliefs. It's not as you are picturing though with the thatch huts and goats on the roof no there are subdivided tiers with houses on them and a gate at the entrance, it is like a "Gated Community" or something back off of a gravel road which draws no attention.

The property is absolutely protected from trespassers with fences and 4'X2'X2' sandstone blocks every 3' around places where four wheelers are likely to get in(even in the creek beds). My Uncle is a security specialist at Fort Campbell so he is the one who took care of the latest changes in the farm security.

So MBAS you are not the only person that is afraid of what other people believe. I fear it, you fear it, and everyone fears it and the ones who say they don't are liars.

Edit: There may be one more Great in Seamus's Legacy I am just not sure.

PDM Edit: corrected entry to say 'Ellis Island'.


Edited by PDM (10/13/11 12:56 PM)
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#419435 - 10/10/11 11:23 PM Re: My Daughter and Her Journey [Re: mbas400]
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That's so very true my Mongrel friend, so very true and scary.
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#419454 - 10/11/11 01:40 PM Re: My Daughter and Her Journey [Re: mbas400]
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My last post here won't allow me to edit it anymore but where I put "when they came to Rikers" should have been "when they came to Ellis".

The Ellis Island website is how I found out the exact date when Seamus and our family came to the States. If any of you are into that sort of stuff then you can find it here:

http://www.ellisisland.org/search/passSearch.asp

The entire point of my last post was that historically and even to this day we fear sharing our beliefs with others. They say that this is the land of the free and I say that this may be true if your white, christian and rich. Well we(my family) are all white and some of us are wealthy but none of us are christian.

So to this day we must be afraid and hide who we really are especially in the part of the country we are in.

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#419455 - 10/11/11 02:04 PM Re: My Daughter and Her Journey [Re: mbas400]
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Yep. For clarification, ELLIS island is the place where immigrants traditionally entered the USA to be processed. It's near the Statue of Liberty, and Ellis Island is now a national museum.

RIKERS island is also in New York, but it's a prison, reserved for the scum of the city to rot in hell.

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#419494 - 10/13/11 12:56 PM Re: My Daughter and Her Journey [Re: Mongrel]
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Originally Posted By: Mongrel
My last post here won't allow me to edit it anymore but where I put "when they came to Rikers" should have been "when they came to Ellis".

I changed it for you smile
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#419496 - 10/13/11 03:14 PM Re: My Daughter and Her Journey [Re: PDM]
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Thank You so much.
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