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#423708 - 05/16/12 11:17 PM Re: Andi flew away today:( i got SUPER LUCKY!!! [Re: AndiBird.]
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I would still secure the bottom of the cage too.
Those little quick links illusive is talking about are really inexpensive..and you could use the same ones over and over again..good investment smile

Pleeeease don't clip her wings. Her being able to fly is her only defense...even INSIDE the house, say nothing about outside
Can you imagine how depressed she would be if you took her flight away, even partially????
It could also create a serious trust issue on her part. Why trust hands of humans if that's what they do???
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#423709 - 05/17/12 04:04 AM Re: Andi flew away today:( i got SUPER LUCKY!!! [Re: AndiBird.]
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I have some of those on some of her toys! she's never touched her toys and i doubt she ever will...idk y? maybe ill take those and i was only thinking about clipping. i had her clipped the very first month i got her because she was flying into walls and such:( im surprised she wasn't hurt. and i saw how happy she got when she grew in 2 feathers on each side and was getting lift already! she would land up somewhere and sit there chirping al proud of herself smile i would never clip her wings fully ever again! and i was thinking its not fair to clip them cuz of my mistake so i wnt be doing that:) hakuna matata!!:):) haha jus finished watching that!
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#423717 - 05/18/12 03:13 PM Re: Andi flew away today:( i got SUPER LUCKY!!! [Re: AndiBird.]
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Keep trying with the toys Andi. It takes some a very long time to play with toys..but really toys are good for them. They keep them from getting bored, stimulate them physically and mentally.

Play with the toys so she knows what they are for. Do it often and pretend they are sooo much fun. Play with them inside the cage and also have some outside the cage on a table top or something to play with. Eventually I think she'll catch on.
Could be you just haven't found the right TYPE of toy to interest her yet.
What toys have you gotten so far?
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#423718 - 05/18/12 05:27 PM Re: Andi flew away today:( i got SUPER LUCKY!!! [Re: AndiBird.]
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kksuns is right ..could be you just dont have the right sort of toys ...place what you have against the bars of the cage they like toys that make a lot of noise when then do play...and being against the sides they bang the bars of the cage to help with noise and its safer against the bars too...they like foot toys as well that dont attach to anything...its also why they love toys with bells inside or on a toy....and i agree no wing clipping not even a partial wing clip because then that really doesnt restrict them anyway and they all crash into walls etc at first its how they learn to manuver when flying and they all generally survive their crash and burns...happens with all baby birds when they begin to fly even outdoor ones.
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#423721 - 05/18/12 11:35 PM Re: Andi flew away today:( i got SUPER LUCKY!!! [Re: AndiBird.]
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Yes i have tha lil cat ones with tha bell inside and i have a rope toy a bright blue and yellow plastic chain with a bell on tha end one that has like four of those lil cat balls attached a ladder and a playgym with a swing a rope perch with an acrylic toy and a bell and she even has a tiny lil teddy bear. she doesn't touch any of them. sometimes she throws tha balls off tha top but thats it. everytime i leave and come bak she's in tha exact same place? same perch sometimes same position?? is that normal?? i saw other peoples conures will do that but never a budgie??
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#423722 - 05/19/12 12:46 AM Re: Andi flew away today:( i got SUPER LUCKY!!! [Re: AndiBird.]
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Have you tried playing with the toys yourself? Ring the bells and try to get her involved. Say things like looook Andi ring the bell..you do it
When you see her throw the balls of the cage top, tell her she's a goood girl and gently toss em back ...not from across the room so it will scare her lol...and tell her to "get it".
Mine love to play that game.

Does she willingly/readily hop on to your hand or finger, or sit on your shoulder? If she likes being with you try playing with toys on a table near her cage, or on the bed or couch-depending on what room she is in?

Oh! I just remembered what I did with Ziggy to get him to play with toys. He was a veggie nut, so I took parsley, or little pieces of romaine lettuce or kale and stuck them in the hanging cat ball type toys, and around the hanging bell toys(parsley worked for those). He went for the veggies and it got him interested in playing with the toys.
That was before he moved in with Levi who taught him lots of things...be they good OR bad. LOL

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#423723 - 05/19/12 05:15 PM Re: Andi flew away today:( i got SUPER LUCKY!!! [Re: AndiBird.]
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Yes i've done all of that! haha we play tha game wen she throws tha ball off tha cage and i give it back and she'll throw it off like 5 more times then go bak to were she was sitting and sit there tha rest of tha time..she hates anything thats not seeds..unless i soak some pellets in apple juice so i cnt do that, it depends of her mood if she steps up. sometimes ill go and she'll hop rite up and other times she'll bite me.. she used to sit on my shoulder but now she fly's rite bak to her cage unless im taking her to sit on tha computer. i dont get it, haha
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#423724 - 05/19/12 05:17 PM Re: Andi flew away today:( i got SUPER LUCKY!!! [Re: AndiBird.]
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when she throws things down does not mean she hates it ...its a game they all play...dont know if your aware of that so thought id mention it. smile
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#423725 - 05/19/12 09:42 PM Re: Andi flew away today:( i got SUPER LUCKY!!! [Re: AndiBird.]
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Sounds like a typical female to me. She wants your attention when SHE wants your attention, she wants to play when SHE wants to play...when she's had enough she's had enough. lol

If she like sitting at the comp with you then do that more often. Bring a toy along and try playing with it there.

Keep trying veggies. You have to be persistent and keep on offering them on a daily basis so she's use to seeing them. Try offering them in different ways...read more threads here, it's been explained a hundred times.
Have you tried putting a pinch of crushed red pepper in with her seeds? If not, give it a try. Chances are she'll like it and it's good for her. Get some carrot powder and beet powder to mix a tiny bit with her seed mix. It's a good way to get more nutrition in to her if she won't eat her veggies yet.

Annyway...Andi is Andi... a typical lady bird. Love and accept her for who she is. If she steps up even just sometimes and wants to spend time on your shoulder only sometimes...well then she obviously trusts you, so you're doing something right smile
Many females are even more standoffish than Andi..so count your blessings.

I would like to see her eat some veggies and play with toys more often to stimulate that intelligent little brain of hers, so keep trying. Just don't force the issue. It had to be on her terms and fun for HER
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#423726 - 05/19/12 11:38 PM Re: Andi flew away today:( i got SUPER LUCKY!!! [Re: AndiBird.]
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Haha i never thot she hated it? she does a couple tricks and stuff, i try to train her so she dont get bored since she dnt play by herself haha! and i've tried tha crushed red peppers and she ate tha normal seeds but not tha chili seeds, i tried tha mash thing and sprinkled some seed on top and she went and ate like 2 seeds and then starved herself all morning(i no cuz wen i put seeds bak she went rite down and feasted!!) so ill keep tryin that! i've learned to accept her being a female! illusive told me tha same thing in another post haha so i jus let her be is she dont want to be near me and if she wants to cuddle i take FULL advantage of it:) haha tha down side is if i cuddle with her then my WHOLE family wants to and then she gets annoyed and stops so if i am i try to hide it haha or jus tell them no:) haha either way i still love her to death:) haha
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