i dont follow any religion because i find the stories in the bible hard to believe and so many different people telling so many different stories.. i do not believe jesus was the son of god but i do believe in god. i do think that jesus did help to spread faith and good will. i think that jesus and mary set out to help spread good word to try and unify us. i think of jesus like i think of santa clause there is proof he was a MAN but only a man. not some guy who rode through the sky at night giving kids toys all over the world. and elfs. i think that just over the years people have been telling stories and they just get bigger and bigger. some kid heard abt a guy that gives toys to kids and the kid was wondering y he/she didnt get any and the mother/father said cuz u havent been a good little boy or girl and things just spread from there on! but back to my point sry for that rant....

in the last supper its suppose to have the holy grail correct ? and someone is suppose to betray jesus correct ? ...and peter was the one you betrayed jesus? is that y peter is holding some kind of knife in this hand ? and the holy grail if u look that the link on the page where u can zoomify the last supper it looks like some kind of glass shape is on the table right below disciple #9 on the painting and if u look u can c 13 cups on the table with some kind of red drink in them ?

here is the link : http://milano.arounder.com/da_vinci_last_supper/fullscreen.html

Welcome to the forum, aestar32.

Well, yes, it's possible that the knife Peter holds is symbolic of the betrayal to come.

Someone else mentioned the glasses and glass 'carafe'. I hadn't noticed them 'til then, but I don't think that any of these look as if they are important enough to be the holy grail.

If you look through this section, you will find lots of threads where these and other subjects are discussed. You might find them interesting.

Having read your comments about your beliefs, I think that you might enjoy reading the threads in the Religious Research section too.

We even have a thread on Santa Claus.

If you go to the list of topics for each subject area you will see, at the top, 'show topics from the last .. days'. You can change this so that you can see more topics or even all topics.

Have a look ~ see what you think.