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#87823 - 11/18/05 07:57 PM
Re: 'Political Correctness'
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Best Friend
Registered: 06/18/05
Posts: 1400
Loc: England
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Originally posted by PDM: An Asian councillor in Wolverhampton has ensured that their winter lights spell out 'Merry Christmas' this year, rather than the P.C. 'Welcome'. He is a Christian Indian who thinks that celebrating Christmas is not offensive to any other culture. he is quite correct! i however has slight difference of opinion with Mark Originally posted by *MARK*: Immigrants come to our country cause theirs is so bad, if they dont like the way we do things, then leave. Why bring the culture with them that theyre trying to escape from.... to have their own breed of that same religion/culture? Mark, i am not an immigrant, i am in UK for experience and returning to India, end 2006/beginning 2007. so please do not think i am personally offended or anything like that - i just differ in opinion! many immigrants come because they are persecuted in their countries! some of them look for greener pastures, but want (sometimes immaturely ) to retain their own culture - that should not be objected. however they cannot impose their culture in the new societies! Originally posted by *MARK*: Does anyone here think that if I go and build a Church in Kabul that the locals are going to stop preying to mecca because I might get offended.... HELL NO. I'd be lucky to get out of dodge in one piece. in pakistan - you cannot even speak about that!! In India, however - you are free to celebrate your festivities in anyway you like - no one will be offended - however others will celebrate theirs as well!! they won't consider whether you are offended or not! Originally posted by *MARK*: Are we too tolerant? I think so. Does being intolerant have to mean not having a heart? No. yes - I think for political correctness and to keep the vote banks going, western societies are too tolerant compared to Islamic societies. India, being secular is very tolerant and i predict the western societies and India will suffer the consequences - like France in recent days!
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#87828 - 11/18/05 11:11 PM
Re: 'Political Correctness'
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True Blue Soulmate
Registered: 12/16/04
Posts: 22734
Loc: UK
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I think different cultures can add to a society but that does not mean that I want England to not be English. It is a largely secular, but officially Church of England, country. The language is English. Most people are fairly tolerant (but sadly there is a violent element which is very unpleasant).
I agree with some of the others. For example, when I go abroad, I try to learn the language. I try to respect the customs.
I think you can keep your own heritage and culture, without forcing them on others or overwhelming the 'host' nation. I worry that in England we acknowledge the cultures of our ethnic minorities but do not always remember our own.
There are parts of the city where the local people look alike, speak alike, dress alike - but not like me. It feels uncomfortable, sometimes, to be an outsider in one's own city. On the other hand, we get the privilege of seeing other cultures close up, without having to travel very far.
I don't mind people retaining their culture - it would be wrong to stop them. Birmingham's mosques and temples add to the architectural beauty. But I don't want it to be at the expense of my culture. I want to feel safe and at home in my own town, not like an outsider.
I think that when people come here, they and their families choose to come; choose to stay. I don't think that they should then try to change things. Society automatically changes when the ethnic mix changes, but I don't think that they should open their own schools and request their own laws. Some, as we have seen, are openly hostile to western culture. I cannot understand why they choose to live in a country that they hate.
The thing is though - they are not 'they', they are 'we', because many of them are actually English. How can you say 'when in Rome do as the Romans do', when there are very different types of Romans?
Also, when the English emigrate, many of them turn their area of the 'new country' into little England and never learn a word of the host nation's language.
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