janimal:

The CIA is currently in the process of being made irrelevant in a political purge that is part of an internal conflict between Rumsfeld's defence department and all the other intelligence agencies, which it wants to bring under its umbrella.

If it was anyone in the US government that did it, it was more likely the Pentagon, not the CIA.

Spooky: I saw the film you refer to, and it looks like fairly standard CCTV footage, which doesn't film continuously but rather takes still images in sequenced intervals. If you ever see CCTV footage of robberies, etc. on the television news, it looks very much like that.

Personally, I am convinced the 9/11 attacks were a provocation aimed at getting the US stuck in quagmires in Afghanistan, Iraq and elsewhere, in a bid to diminish US power. I think it was a very similar strategy to the one Reagan used against the Soviet Union.

It's possible that this was the act of a handful of fanatics (ie Al-Qaeda) but I think the strategy behind it is just too brilliant, and I wouldn't be surprised if there were a greater power and some intelligence services behind it. Not the US ones, but rather, perhaps China, Russia, ...? A genuine rival power would certainly benefit from having the US distracted fighting against insignificant phantom enemies in the Mideast whilst they build their own power base. The possibilities are very interesting.

Cappy...... "fairly standard cctv footage". do you expect me to believe that the Pentagon utilises cctv gear from 20 years ago? We have service stations and video shops with better footage than what we are supposed to believe the pantagon shoots. Hell, I have a security system at home that i purchased for $100 that shows better imaging.
Perhaps the Pentagon needs to have a personal shopper at dick smith electronics, or Wal Mart even.

well, mc donalds probably have much better cameras, which is why the footage from their restaurant across the road from the pentagon hasn't been released yet.

I don't know any McDonalds there, but there is a Citgo filling station (owned by Chavez!) right in plain view, and their video has gone missing. Probably the clearest view would have been from the Sheraton hotel , which is just up the hill from the crash site, but their video is also locked away in some government vault.

Not again, Urban Legends and Conspiracy Theories never die!

Just a few simple Questions why should the Pentagon or the Defence Ministry have done that?

To Invade Afghanistan to free these Poeple from the Taliban?

To invade Iraq to free the People of Hussein-Clan?

How many Witnesses would have been involved?

Why, till today nobody came forward and said "We have done it all!" Why?

well, my friend, the p;oint is that the pentagon et al have failed to address any of these questions let alone answer them.

so what about the firefighters who reported demolition charges and a smell of corite in the trade centre? what about the aviation experts who say they weren't passenger planes? what about the architects and engineers who say the buildings should never have failed? what about the melting point of steel? what about the put options and prior knowledge? what about the money made by american corporations after the crashes? what about the lack of wreckage at the pentagon? what about the near impossible manouvre it took to hit the pentagon (apparently by a pilot who could barely handle a cessna) what about the bin laden confession tape, which clearly shows someone dressed up as bin laden? what about the molten foundations? what about the billions of missing gold from the basement? what about the lack of black box data, while onbe of the highjackers passports suvived the crash..... i could go on and on.

if you don't think any of the above unanswered questions pose a problem, then just roll over and go back to sleep.as spooky said:

How much money Moore made with F.9/11?

I won't "roll over and go back to sleep".. for thast I am too wide awake!

"Only by confronting such poisonous claims with irrefutable facts can we understand what really happened on a day that is forever seared into world history."

Link to Photo

This Link cleares all of your "Conspiracy" claims..

On this Link one can CLEARLY see an Airplane flying ito the WTC... if this a manipulated Photo in your eyes - it's up to you - believe what ever feels right - I have watched the intire event - from the second plane crushing into WTC no way that this was all 'set up' - wher are all the People who have prepaired all this?

All killed, all hands of the G.W.B.J. "Conspiracy?

Believe what you want - I go to find out what is FACT and what is fiction.

so?? several buildings, including the empire state, were hit by planes. none of them fell. several tall buildings have burned for many hours. they didn't fall either.

moore certainly didn't make the 3.5 billion the owner of the buildings cashed in on the insurance, and thats just the start. you heard of put options?

Well, I think the conspiracy theory sounds unbelievable, but if people have put together 'evidence', then these questions need to be dealt with.

If this theory is correct, then ... wow!

If not, then the people need to have proof, because this has been going on too long.

Or is it best forgotten??

most certainly not. at least not until we know the truth. its doubtful that we'll ever get it, because people like galacticus will throw the 'conspiracy theories' out of the window every time. too many people are conditioned to think that any suggestion of our own leaders carrying out massive atrocities is plainly ridiculous, and therefore not worth considering.

i wasn't there, but given the choice of believing a bunch of politicians in siuts who have been proven to be liars many times over, or believing the firefighters who were on site, and the various experts who have no vested interest one way or another, then i know which way i'm more likely to swing. i mean - not even the present us government was duely elected, so how can you believe them?

the trouble is, we don't know who the enemy is. is it bin laden? don't think so. is it al quaeda? don't think they even exist. was it charles de menezes? no. was it the guy theat got shot by police in north london last week? no, not him either. is it the people being held in guantanamo without due process? i doubt it. is it the american administration which together with the british has been bombing the xxxx out of the middle east for about 15 years now to get at their oil? quite possibly....