Originally posted by Coco's Mama:
... nothing like that should ever happen again .

Love from a Canadian Girl.

the world was quiet before 911????? are you joking ???? maybe your world was ... mine certainly was not ....
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and then you get down to it and you realize 911 was propogated by the american government against the american people ... and i firmly believe that ... were arabs involved??? possibly it wouldnt be the first time the usa uses arabs to do its dirty work...

if we want to make a list of bloodshed done in the name of god ... i think christianity would walk away with that trophy ...

So, it's your claim that the attacks on 9/11 were really planned by the American Government?

Did I read that correctly?

And the US Government hired arabs to hijack the planes?

That is your assertion?
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mbas ... it is my opinion that the american government is the main guilty party where 911 is concerned ... and im not the only one ... the majority of experts and rescue workers and many american people feel the same exact way.

i do not know if they hired arabs lol ... no proof of that ... but it wouldnt be the first time.

it is an undeniable FACT that there were not 19 hi jackers even though this is still the official story. 9 of those hi jackers are alive and well living all over the world having been falsely accused. and that has been all over the bbc and other news agencies of course not in the usa though.

so i am not at all convinced their were any hi jackers at all ... sorry i just dont see the proof of such ... i see video surveilance of some arab guys boarding a plane ... i see nothing else....possibly the government used them as a handy scapegoat ... who knows...

if you really want me to be very honest with you .. i am not at all convinced their were any people at all on any of those planes ... and there is alot of theories out their saying exactly that .... that part might be far fetched ... but the facts are the american government was involved in planning, and carrying out the 911 attacks .... in very very deep and serious ways.

its not just some hocus pocus hippie conspiracy ....


and if you disagree with me that is fine... its your right to do so but please in the future try to do so in a logical way with respect and without smart carcastic remarks made in an attempt at making me look like some kind of cook ....

helwa: it is an undeniable FACT that there were not 19 hi jackers even though this is still the official story. 9 of those hi jackers are alive and well living all over the world having been falsely accused.

Let's start with this "FACT". Show me your proof on this one.

helwa: 'but the facts are the american government was involved in planning, and carrying out the 911 attacks .... in very very deep and serious ways.']

And then let's move to this "FACT" as well. Show me the facts.

helwa: 'i am not at all convinced their were any people at all on any of those planes'

As for what you believe, that's up to you. There's no reasoning with anything people believe. Some people even believe a man was nailed to a cross, died and then lived again, and is still living.

So, if I understand you correctly, you think that empty planes crashed into the World Trade Center, the Pentagon, and the Pennsylvania countryside? Is that what you said?

helwa: 'in an attempt at making me look like some kind of cook ....'

I don't have to "make you" look like a kook. I'm just trying to understand what you are saying. Your words speak for themselves.

go search for youself ... its not my job to educate you .. if you desire the information you will go search for it.

the stories of the hi jackers were all over bbc and are not at all hard to find if one uses google

many many many documentaries exist detailing all the facts of 911 ... go watch a few of them google 911 documentary and you should get a few good ones.


and as for the planes being empty i said it was far fetched ... but its a thought in the back of my mind and im not ruling it out as a possibility. but of course you dont choose to quote THAT PART of my words ... you only quote the sensational part and then go at it .. typical propaganda tactics at work:)

and attacking me personally doesnt help your argument ... why dont you show me proof of your side ... instead of saying my words speak for themselves at showing im a kook ... and making attempts to diminish my mental capabilities in order to just dismiss my words instead of actually discussing the issue

im honestly not inerested in getting into a huge debate about it ... i have absolutly no interest what so ever in convincing you ... im not that way .... i could care less what you think or how you believe im just stating what i do believe and you are free to do the same ... of course.

if this is the first time you have heard of such theories then you must not ever ever watch the news ... even mainstream america is now increasingly believing these things ....

i was wondering when this would come up again. i'm kinda with helwa on this one, but i'm still inclined to be a little cautious, because there is a lot of bull flying around over 9/11.

i do think there are many holes in the official version of the truth. to mention but a few:

there are a great many architects and scientists who agree that the crash and subsequent blaze were not enough to compromise the structure. i have a science background, and i'm inclined to agree, as are many others.

the twin towers are the only steel structures ever felled by fire - others have burned for much longer and stayed upright.

why did building seven fall?

why did firemen who reported explosions and explosive smells have a gagging order placed on them?

why is the only plane crash over land in aviation history where no flight recoprders were recovered, whils apparently the passport of a highjacker did?

why did america and israel have prior knowledge of the attack?

why was there uniquely high activity in the put options market immediately before the crash?

who benefited? the traders who made the put option deals, the owners of the towers who got a very large insurance payout, and the weaponry manufacturers who supplied the subsequent war, which ensued in a recordbreakingly short time - almost as if troops were already deployed...

who didn't benefit? the islamists, or saddam, or the iraqi or afghani people.

in the absense of a serious inquiry which takes into account these and many other inconsistencies instead of just brushing them aside i don't think we can believe the official version of events any more than we can believe the official version of the war. i would say therefore that its possibly quite ill considered to write all these questions hanging over 9/11 off as conspiracy theories.

i agree with lora, but he and the government were in on 9/11, and the pentagon was really hit bya misslile, and ive seen prove, but has any heard of the " new world order"?