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#318791 - 08/11/08 07:35 PM Re: 'Y' - Euclid, Pythagoras, Leonardo, etc. MarY [Re: Grrr82CU]
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Thanks for sorting that out Grrr82CU!
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#319205 - 08/13/08 06:51 PM Re: 'Y' - Euclid, Pythagoras, Leonardo, etc. MarY [Re: PDM]
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Originally Posted By: PDM
Thanks for sorting that out Grrr82CU!

Hello PDM...and you are welcome.

The original URL led to The Museo Nazionale e della Technologia in Milan. The link became unusable due to the museum's ongoing renovation. Once the museum has reopened, all who are interested in the works of Leonardo should visit either in person or via the museum's website which offers several languages in support of viewer needs.

Fortunately an excellent link was found at Central Saint Martin's College of Art and Design in London and could be listed enabling readers to view Leonardo's vocabulary exercise in context with the point being made in that particular three-part post.

...and as always, Grrr82CU !!


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#352256 - 02/16/09 06:43 PM Re: 'Y' - Euclid, Pythagoras, Leonardo, etc. MarY [Re: Grrr82CU]
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This link to Leonardo's Trivulzianus (a vocabulary exercise on the master's part to improve his language and communication skills at court) has been posted previously by this writer.

The reason for re-posting it is that by "right-clicking" on the link below the picture, an interested reader will be able to examine fine details of this manuscript due to a new "Zoom & Explore" feature added by the Universal Leonardo site.

Once the site has been accessed, "click" on the "Zoom & Enlarge" hyperlink. Once the enlarged picture displayes, additional "clicking" on it will continue the enlargment process. Also note that while in this mode, the picture is movable in all directions (hold down the right-button, move your mouse to move the picture viewing area under enlargement) for full exploration.


Link To Leonard da Vinci's "Zoomable" Trivulzianus

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#352303 - 02/17/09 08:50 AM Re: 'Y' - Euclid, Pythagoras, Leonardo, etc. MarY [Re: Grrr82CU]
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#352321 - 02/17/09 10:11 AM Re: 'Y' - Euclid, Pythagoras, Leonardo, etc. MarY [Re: PDM]
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You are welcome, PDM...

For additional "fun" - hold a mirror up to an enlarged and isolated portion of Leonardo's handwritten text (since he often wrote words in reverse perhaps to baffle curious eyes investigating what he was writting or had written) - and "see" the word it is in the Italian of his day.

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#419872 - 11/03/11 06:08 PM Re: 'Y' - Euclid, Pythagoras, Leonardo, etc. MarY [Re: PDM]
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Friend PDM - just a quick note in case you find yourself perusing old topics in which we have had all those great exchanges - I left you a note in "Leonardo's Painting - A Fatal Flaw?" on November 03, 2011, just in case you haven't seen it.

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#419873 - 11/03/11 07:17 PM Re: 'Y' - Euclid, Pythagoras, Leonardo, etc. MarY [Re: Grrr82CU]
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Also - and this is important to anyone reading through this thread's installments - I noticed in re-reading through it myself that some of the coding is not functioning as it was when originally posted. Several of the "color" codes are not producing the color called for by the hexidecimal number which worked "back then" (such as called for to highlight the name of "Mary Magdalene" in the Old English quote from Luke 8:1-3. At the time, her name appeared as "magdalenisce maria" instead of as now all the same color.

Hopefully the above example will assist in "seeing" Mary Magdalene as it appeared in Old English corresponding to Leornardo's "day" in that quotation of Luke 8:1-3 in the "Introduction" - Post #219281 on 10/10/07.

Another example of a link now not functioning is the display of "The Codex Trivulzainus" of Leonardo's in "Part 2" posted on 10/14/07.

On that point (the Trivulainus) I have just entered a more stable link (appearing two/three entries above this one] originally posted on 02/16/09) to display this very interesting and facinating document.

Hopefully this arrangement will allow a reader to better maintain the context in the respective paragraph of "Part 2" after viewing the exhibit of the Trivulainus and returning to "Part 2".

Another link now not working is the display of the Arabic letter "Za" now transliterated into modern day English/Latin alphabet as a "Y" (but absolutely not back in the time of Old English).

In the same area, the link to display the Greek letter "PSI" also is no longer working. The capital "PSI" is as noted in "Part 2" is sometimes mistaken for a "Y" which it is not.

Again - a reader initiated "search" for thos alphabetic letter in their respective languages may produce examples that can be viewed for context in correlation with the argumentation

Similar examples of non-functioning links could be pointed out but hopefully a reader encountering such missing examples can now initiate a "search" the to view an example to help with the in context associated with its respective paragraph if they wish to do so.

In closing - remember all these examples and accompanying agrumentation were presented to counter the claims by a representative of the "da Vinci Project, Research Group" that Leonardo used a modern day "Y" based upon his studies of Euclid, Pythagoras, etc., which of course is absurd since (as documented in Parts I and 2 and continuing) - Leonardo didn't speak English (plus "Mary" didn't resemble "Mary" at all in his day [see the Old English example] as neither did the "Y" seen on walls and elsewhere represent a linguistic use of "y" in constructing "words" in Leonardo's day (nor Euclid's nor Pythagoras').

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#419875 - 11/03/11 08:09 PM Re: 'Y' - Euclid, Pythagoras, Leonardo, etc. MarY [Re: PDM]
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Hi there smile

Thanks for updating and clarifying. smile
Yes, unfortunately, links do seems to go out of date from time to time. smile
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#421012 - 12/25/11 12:42 PM Re: 'Y' - Euclid, Pythagoras, Leonardo, etc. MarY [Re: PDM]
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A temporary problem has developed regarding the display of certain links/URLs used to retriev picturs stored on Photobucket which will hopefully be resolved soon.

{Regrettably a number of other links have become non-functional over time as presumably either no longer offered by the source or have changed to another server).

In the mean time with regard to those links/pictures stored on Photobucket - in place of where those pictures are supposed to be visible is a "square" from Photobucket advising the "bandwidth has been exceeded".

If you click on that "square" the picture that is supposed to display can usually still be displayed. This "bandwidth" issue should be corrected and the pictures restored and visible by the end of the year if not before.

And...Grrr82CU !!
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#425914 - 12/26/12 03:18 PM Re: 'Y' - Euclid, Pythagoras, Leonardo, etc. MarY [Re: Grrr82CU]
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For anyone visiting this folder - I have just noticed that for some reason the "founding post" (initial entry setting up the discussion) is missing.

I have alerted PDM as of 12/26/12
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