Whenever the three days and three nights of Matthew 12:40 is brought up in a "discussion" with 6th day crucifixion folks, they frequently argue that it is a Jewish idiom for counting any part of a day as a whole day. I wonder if anyone has documentation that shows that a phrase stating a specific number of days as well as a specific number of nights was ever used in the first century or before when it didn't include at least parts of the specific number of days and at least parts of the specific number of nights?
Loc: bude , cornwall
would you care to elaborate?
you seem to be alluding to a literal interpretation of bible chronology, which seems purely academic unless you are seriously going to argue in favour of young earth creationism...
beyond which this seems to be about the resurrection of the worlds favourite fictional character. for my own part the bible is so full of glaring inconsistencies and contradictions that pedantry like this seems rather pointless to me.
so - do you accept the bible is inconsistent, or are you a young earth creationist?
Loc: bude , cornwall
yes, we'd all like to see some texts from the first century, but they are spectacularly thin on the ground. the vatican has seen to that. beyond that you would have to look for detailed explanations of chronology in those texts, which is something which by and large does not exist in 'biblical' texts.
it is relevant to the young earth view because the bible chronology is either absolute throughout the book, or a phantasm which can be disregarded at large. i do not think there is any middle ground. therefore if young earth creationism is incorrect (which to my mind is the only sane interpretation) then any argument about chronology in the bible is a mute one.
the bible is spectacularly inconsistent, which is to be expected from a book compiled on grounds of agenda and politics rather than historical chronicle. i see no reason to take it more seriously than morte d'artur or the hobbit.
I guess you are referring to the belief in some communities that crucifixion took place on Wednesday, burial on Thursday and resurrection on Sunday . . . as if Crucifixion took place on Friday, it is not exactly 3 nights and 3 days Jesus was in the 'belly' of earth.
I am not aware of any contemporary Jewish writing that confirms the fact that part of days were counted towards whole days.
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