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iodine supplement???

Posted By: blumom

iodine supplement??? - 09/04/08 03:01 PM

Yesterday I went to a really wonderful bird shop and was strongly advised to give my birds 2-3 drops of iodine in their drinking water a couple days a week. Do any of you do this? Any downside to it?

thanks
Posted By: kathy63

Re: iodine supplement??? - 09/04/08 04:56 PM

there are people on the site that know better then myself, but i know when i took kiki to the avian vet, she told me not to put vitamins in the water because they don't drink it all and it could breed bacteria. i don't know why because i put clean water every day. i threw the vitamins in the trash. someone else will give you some good advice when they read your post.
kathy
Posted By: B1RD

Re: iodine supplement??? - 09/04/08 05:10 PM

I tend to agree with kathy63. I have heard several times to not put stuff in the water. I know the vet gave me antibiotics to put in Zazie's water when she was sick, but that's different. I think they should get all their nutrition from their food, what does everyone else think?
Posted By: Jasper's mom

Re: iodine supplement??? - 09/04/08 05:13 PM

I was interested in your question, went looking online. I came across this article

http://www.peteducation.com/article.cfm?cls=15&cat=1829&articleid=2755

apparently iodine supplements help prevent goiter and thyroid problems. after reading this, I think I would discuss this with your vet first.

I had trouble finding a basic mineral block, and the one I did find contains iodine, but he doesn't really use it too much so that would not be a reliable source smile
Posted By: Anonymous

Re: iodine supplement??? - 09/04/08 05:32 PM

This is an overall mineral suppliment that I use, and it includes iodine: http://www.harrisonsbirdfoods.com/products/avix.html (scroll down to the product called "Bird Builder")

It's for birds who are not converted fully to a pellet diet. It's easy to use (just mix into gallon of water and store in fridge) -- no mold, gunk, or yuckiness!
Posted By: blumom

Re: iodine supplement??? - 09/04/08 06:09 PM

so you're mixing stuff into the water. I change my water 2x a day and I"m thinking perhaps, after talking to the vet, I'd simply put in a couple drops in their morning water and not in the evening.

The pet store guy was pretty interesting. I was picking up some pellets and he kind of grimaced. I told him my birds eat it and he responded with...well, as long as you're giving them plenty of seed and veggies too. The pellets make the birds fat and wanting to lay eggs. That freaked me out a bit since I've got one old gal in a cage with two young guys. I sure don't want her laying eggs (although she's got a pretty effective beak that she uses mercilessly on the males). Anybody else ever hear this? I'm still up in the air about the whole pellet thing. I just don't feel 100% comfortable about a man-made diet as the main source of food for the birds. I sure wouldn't use an extruded vitamin compound as my main food intake.
Posted By: Anonymous

Re: iodine supplement??? - 09/04/08 06:54 PM

Well, this is a bizarre coincidence --- there's a new topic/thread called "Chronic egg-laying - pls. advise" and the very issue of "pellets make them want to lay eggs" came up!! I just posted that I've never linked the two -- I mean, I've never heard anything about pellets encouraging egg-laying, and this is a new one on me!

Hopefully other people will know about this...

The only thing I'd be concerned with (about drops of iodine) is -- how much to put in? IMO, better too little than too much.....

I agree with you 100% about not wanting an entirely man-made diet, so apparently many avian vets recommend mostly pellets but also plenty of veggies, and a little bit of fruit, seeds, and treats.
Posted By: Jasper's mom

Re: iodine supplement??? - 09/04/08 07:19 PM

I was just reading online, and saw one site that said cuttlebones were a good source of iodine....don't know if they're right...so I would discuss this with a vet smile It might do them more harm if they get too much??

When I got Jasper, the pet shop people told me to rotate through different brands of foods, as different ones offer different nutrients and different mixes of seeds. I give Jasper pellets, but do not plan on him eating mainly pellets. I add them to his seeds, and it definitely looks like he eats both. I put the seed in first, add a layer of pellets, and right now I top with some Quicko egg food as he is still molting. I saw an article once about the possibility of birds that eat only pellets actually getting to much of some vitamins and minerals, especially if they are also getting vitamin supplements. We all know they need fresh vegs and fruits...but do the birds know that? We all know how hard it is to get them to eat their veggies LOL

I've decided on a middle road approach, that's what I'm comfortable with. I've had parakeets before pellets were even available, and they were perfectly healthy and happy. My Charlie lived 14 years, she was just offered many different seeds, millet, treats, egg food, groats, greens etc. Different things, with lots of variety smile

Sorry, this got a little long............
Posted By: pollyannie

Re: iodine supplement??? - 09/04/08 08:03 PM

I give my Australian finches and parakeets iodine 2-3 times per month.
For some reason, Australian birds need more iodine than other birds. I started giving it to my finches then I looked into it for my parakeets since they are also Australian. I discovered that it was also recommended for them. Iodine deficiency used to be really common in parrakeets until people started giving them cuttlebone.
I give my finches and parakeets Liqui-kelp. It is actually a human supplement so you could probably find it at a healh store.
I put 2 drops per quart and give it to them 2-3 times per month. I don't use iodized salt so I tend to put a drop in my mouth too. lol
Posted By: Anonymous

Re: iodine supplement??? - 09/04/08 08:16 PM

yes do not put ANYTHING in your birds water enless it is prescribed by a vet. if you want to add supplements then ask the vet which ones and what brands, not all are created equally.

most birds have no need for supplements.
Posted By: Jasper's mom

Re: iodine supplement??? - 09/04/08 08:27 PM

Originally Posted By: keeterama*
yes do not put ANYTHING in your birds water enless it is prescribed by a vet. if you want to add supplements then ask the vet which ones and what brands, not all are created equally.

most birds have no need for supplements.


I second that! especially with iodine in cuttlebones and mineral blocks, I would check with a vet first!
Posted By: Coco's Mama

Re: iodine supplement??? - 09/04/08 08:29 PM

Personally i have an iodine block tied to the cage like her cuttle bone and mineral block, she rarely goes to the iodine so she must not need much the cuttle bone is her second and the mineral block has got some good use.
Posted By: pollyannie

Re: iodine supplement??? - 09/04/08 08:49 PM

My bad!
I guess I just assumed people would check with a vet first. It didn't even cross my mind to mention that! lol
So, thanks for mentioning it.
The iodine was recommended first by my avian vet for the finches. They just didn't seem very healthy so they went to the vet in January. The vet recommended that the finches get the iodine supplement.
At a later time, I called the vet and asked about the parakeets. They said it would be ok but to not give as much as the finches get. The finches actually get it 2 times a week while the parakeets get it 2-3 times per month.
Posted By: Coco's Mama

Re: iodine supplement??? - 09/04/08 10:11 PM

Hmm so should i take out the block?
Posted By: Anonymous

Re: iodine supplement??? - 09/05/08 02:35 AM

This is all very interesting and now I am more and more confused!! So many thoughts. Well, I am thinking about taking Caico to the vet just to see if he has any suggestions of ways I can help my little pigeon toed friend. I think I'll ask about all of this too when I do.
Posted By: Anonymous

Re: iodine supplement??? - 09/05/08 02:44 AM

no the block is more than likely ok ... i am speaking of specifically water supplements. you should never add anything to the water enless instructed to. (rarely is it beneficial)
Posted By: Anonymous

Re: iodine supplement??? - 09/06/08 04:52 PM

Originally Posted By: keeterama*
no the block is more than likely ok ... i am speaking of specifically water supplements. you should never add anything to the water enless instructed to. (rarely is it beneficial)
Absolutely! I use Avi-X Bird Builder because my avian vet recommends it -- she's enthusiastic about Harrison's products in general.

I think Jasper's Mom made an excellent point about over-doing it, with vitamins & minerals...
Posted By: pollyannie

Re: iodine supplement??? - 09/06/08 05:42 PM

The organic iodine supplement that was recommended to me is basically purified water and kelp.
I wonder if I could just feed them kelp 2-3 times per month?
I don't eat anything from the ocean (it all taste, well, fishy!) so I have no idea if kelp is even available for humans to eat.
And what about seaweed. I know that is available. I think that also has the natural iodine versus the fake stuff that is used in iodized salt.
I could chop it up in the carrots and hopefully they won't notice!
Posted By: Japanesesnowball

Re: iodine supplement??? - 02/15/18 07:08 PM

If you feel uncomfortable about supplementing your budgies via their water supply the you could feed them iodine rich foods twice a week. For instance cranberries have high amounts of iodine and are safe for budgies. Most budgies are deficient in Iodine and so you really do need to add it to their diet.
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